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Ecko Member since: 9/7/2000 From: Etiwanda, USA!!!!!!! |
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| very different article than is usually on this site, but is still very good. I just wish people would stop using ID in their examples, they are always the exception to the rule... |
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geekster GDNet+ Member since: 5/11/2001 From: Esbjerg, Denmark |
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| NVidia's drivers aren't open source. Drivers are what's meant right? |
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Myopic Rhino Staff Member since: The dawn of time
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| Read that paragraph again. Although I can understand why you think he's saying that Nvidia drivers are open source, what he actually said is that Nvidia provides free source code showing how to take full advantage of their hardware. Dave "Myopic Rhino" Astle Executive Producer and COO, GameDev.net Game Programmer, Avalanche Software Author, OpenGL Game Programming "Leaking and bleeding... that's what happens when you don't relax" |
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Oluseyi Staff Member since: 5/14/2001 From: New York, NY, United States |
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| A few issues were left untouched, perhaps because they were too involved for an article of such limited scope. The only one I will touch on is the viability of Open Source for you. Eric S. Raymond (anthroplogist, sociologist, programmer, often regarded as the "Father of Open Source", one of the people responsible for the term "Open Source") has said that Open Source is not for everyone. There are certain fundamental criteria for determining whether going open makes sense for your business/operation. He lays these criteria out in better detail and eloquence than I can in his collection of essays The Cathedral and the Bazaar (actually the title of one of the essays, but then used as the title for the O'Reilly book), including case studies. That essay and other related writings are recommended reading for anyone looking to find out more about Open Source in general and Open Source for business in particular. (You'll also find a bunch of cool stuff at his site; ESR is the author of the Hacker's New Dictionary - the published version of the Jargon File, which he also maintains). |
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geekster GDNet+ Member since: 5/11/2001 From: Esbjerg, Denmark |
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| Aah, meesa understand now. |
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BaelWrath Member since: 6/26/2001 From: England |
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Posted - 6/12/2002 8:54:53 AM |
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| Good to see someone with a realistic view of OS. I think Source forge now numbers a good few of us trying to produce serious products under this banner but we are still a small minority when looking at the peeps working in the DIY part of the industry. The more that get involved the better the tools and libraries; and the better the sources for resolving problems and developing skills. Once again, well done. Regards Bael. |
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FenixDown Member since: 2/12/2002 From: New Jersey, USA |
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Spelling error right at the beginning: "So where so we begin?" I'm guessing that should be "So where DO we begin"  |
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ktulu Member since: 7/1/2000 From: Joćo Pessoa, Brazil |
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| From the article: "It's not a free utility like NSIS that's made available to the public for free without the source code. " From NSIS' site (www.nullsoft.com/free/nsis/): "In order to make NSIS even more powerful than it already is, we have released it under an open source license (it is actually the zlib/libpng license, which is approved by opensource.org)." I had worked with NSIS' code in previous versions, so I found it strange that it was mentioned as "free without source code". |
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coldacid Member since: 6/4/2001 From: Pickering, Canada |
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Posted - 6/23/2002 4:17:04 PM |
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| RMS and the FSF don't provide truly "free" (as in speech) software. Unlike license such as the MIT license or the MPL, you can't later close the source if you're working off a fork. This makes the GPL very unsuitable for businesses. RMS has a goal of destroying the business world as we see it, and in my opinion he is a very unstable man. I find it best to work from no example of his, and instead from better communities than the FSF (such as the Mozilla community of which I am a part). Good article, nonetheless. Chris 'coldacid' Charabaruk <ccharabaruk@meldstar.com> <http://www.meldstar.com/ccharabaruk/> Meldstar Studios <http://www.meldstar.com/> - Creation, cubed. This message double ROT-13 encrypted for additional security. |
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rds Member since: 6/17/2000 From: Asheville, USA |
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Posted - 6/26/2002 9:42:56 PM |
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| I would have replied sooner but I've been out of the loop a bit. I'll get everyone at once. Ecko: very different article than is usually on this site, but is still very good. I just wish people would stop using ID in their examples, they are always the exception to the rule... Maybe id examples are overdone, however it is an example of what is possible. I'm glad you enjoyed the article. geekster: NVidia's drivers aren't open source. Drivers are what's meant right? Myopic Rhino had it right. Sorry, the paragraph wasn't clear. Oluseyi: A few issues were left untouched, perhaps because they were too involved for an article of such limited scope. I intended the article to be more of an introduction to open source for game developers who might not be very familiar with it. I agree there is much more to be said about open source and gaming. BaelWrath: Good to see someone with a realistic view of OS... Thank you for that comment. I tried to be as balanced and as realistic as possible. ...The more that get involved the better the tools and libraries; and the better the sources for resolving problems and developing skills. I couldn't agree more, which is why I wrote the article. FenixDown: Spelling error right at the beginning: "So where so we begin?" I'm guessing that should be "So where DO we begin" Must be something on your screen. It read "So where do we begin" everytime I read it. :-) I found another typo, but I'm not tell you that one. ktulu: From NSIS' site (www.nullsoft.com/free/nsis/): "In order to make NSIS even more powerful than it already is, we have released it under an open source license (it is actually the zlib/libpng license, which is approved by opensource.org)." My mistake, it was my understanding that it was a free utility without the source. Has it always been open source? The statement would lead one to believe that hasn't always been that way. coldacid: RMS has a goal of destroying the business world as we see it, and in my opinion he is a very unstable man. I contacted RMS for the article. He got a bit, uh shall I say, edgy about using the word "Open Source" in the article. He told me I would have to remove all references to the word and call it "Free Software" to have anything to say on the subject. I decided to mention his involvement in a historical sense. Thanks for all the feedback. Richard |
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