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Khaos Member since: 9/9/2000 |
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 Posted - 8/9/2004 7:00:48 AM |
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| I would like a few lists, number one through five, of the least intelligent animal you can think of, up to the most intelligent animal you can think of. It would be best if these were all land animals, and ones that do not fly. I need to find out what are stereotypically dumber animals (#1, #2), what are considered smart animals (#4, #5), and obviously some sort of middle-range animal. If you can make any list you provide well defined with animals that could not be considered ambiguous, that would help. In other words, NOT something like the following: 1. naked mold rat 2. beaver 3. yellow-footed western beaver 4. horse 5. dog Not that, primarily because it obviously makes no sense and even if it did technically, the average person would not be able to figure out that represented animal intelligence ranking. I am going to consider a human to be #6, so don't include that please. Thanks to all that participate. |
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Toolmaker Member since: 4/10/2003 From: Amsterdam, Netherlands |
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 Posted - 8/9/2004 7:16:58 AM |
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| Dolphins are intelligent(spelling?) and are self aware(Like humans). Toolmaker |
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Khaos Member since: 9/9/2000 |
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Posted - 8/9/2004 7:26:06 AM |
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| I know, but I cannot use sea based creatures. Just land. Thanks though. |
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smart_idiot Member since: 11/16/2000 From: North Bay, Canada |
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Posted - 8/9/2004 7:27:02 AM |
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| Mice are pretty smart. They built the Earth, you know. |
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quasar3d Member since: 12/1/2001 From: Rotterdam, Netherlands |
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Posted - 8/9/2004 7:30:50 AM |
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| Do you mean stereotypical dumb/intelligent, or real dumb/intelligent? By example, a donky is usually labeled dumb, while it really is one of smartest animals around, and an owl, which is usually associated with wisdom, is in fact a very dumb animal. |
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Khaos Member since: 9/9/2000 |
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Posted - 8/9/2004 7:37:36 AM |
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Quote: Excellent point. Perhaps if someone created a list they could label it with the options you gave, so I knew which set they were talking about. Good thinking. Could anyone assemble a list? I need a few from different people to cross-reference. I want to know what different people are thinking. This is an experiment, so I need several different data sources (several different lists.. your opinions if you will). Thanks. |
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Torkel Member since: 8/3/2004 From: Sweden |
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Posted - 8/9/2004 7:59:57 AM |
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| The thing is, many of the more intelligent animals (dolphins, octopuses, vultures, crows, whales, etc) aren't land animals. As for stupid animals, nematodes would probably top the list. Chimps would probably be the smartest. It is rather hard to understand exactly what you want from your example, perhaps you could specify? |
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Starboy Member since: 11/15/2001 From: Manchester, United Kingdom |
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Posted - 8/9/2004 8:05:45 AM |
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| I take it 'American' would be a subset of human, so therefore wouldn't qualify for the list? Shame because I couldn't think of what else to put in my number 2 slot... DISCLAIMER: SORRY! I apologise unreservedly for my blatant anti-American stereotyping and jibing. I couldn't resist it, and if I didn't do it someone else would. If it makes you feel better I'm an artist/designer, so am in all probability occupying the number 1 spot as least intelligent  |
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Etnu GDNet+ Member since: 4/25/2000 From: Sunnyvale, CA, United States |
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 Posted - 8/9/2004 10:25:28 AM |
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| We can't accurately guage human intelligence, how can we possibly guage animal intelligence? Some people arbitrarily decide that x, y, and z animals are "smarter" than a,b, and c, based on their own definition of 'Intelligence', and it's supposed to be accepted? er. Least Intelligent animal: Human beings. |
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CodeMunkie Member since: 7/31/2003 From: Atlanta, GA, United States |
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Posted - 8/9/2004 10:31:19 AM |
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| I would say that a gorilla who can ask for a doctor is pretty high on the list. |
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fractoid Member since: 2/9/2003 From: Perth, Australia |
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Posted - 8/9/2004 10:59:52 AM |
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| Meh... I think you'd better define 'intelligent'. It seems to be a fairly continuous spectrum, but there are distinct milestones that people generally use to judge it. Two such are tool using (ie. chimpanzee > rat, because while they both have grasping hands, chimpanzees can use rocks to crack nuts) and... umm... can't remember what it's called. The one where you have a model of what another entity 'knows' and use that to predict what it'll do. I'm sure someone here knows the name. An example would be: Bob and Fred are in a room. Bob puts a book on the table. Fred goes out of the room, and says that when he comes back in he'll want the book. After Fred has left the room, Bob moves the book. Joe, who has been observing all the time, will reason that Fred will look on the table where the book was, because Fred doesn't know it's been moved. Apparently only humans over the age of 5-ish can do this. Obviously it's hard to judge how intelligent something is if you can't converse with it. It may be unable to talk to you because it's a pidgeon (stupidest creature on earth, will stand still and let itself be run over by a truck moving at 5km/h), or because it's a Japanese automotive engineer (highly intelligent but doesn't speak English). Anyway... so as to be not totally unhelpful; if it's *perceived* intelligence, I'd say: 0. Pidgeons 1. Arachnidae 2. Insects 3. Rodents (Rats > Mice) 4. Dogs, cats 5. Lamas 6. Primates (roughly in the order of small monkeys, large monkeys, great apes) |
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coldacid Member since: 6/4/2001 From: Pickering, Canada |
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 Posted - 8/9/2004 11:03:20 AM |
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| Chimps. They make tools and use them, after all. (Then again, considering us humans, perhaps that puts them on our end of the list. :p ) |
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Vasant56 Member since: 3/29/2004 From: Waterloo, Canada |
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Posted - 8/9/2004 11:09:49 AM |
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| Amoebas Jellyfish goldfish etc. |
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AndreTheGiant Member since: 8/14/2002 |
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Posted - 8/9/2004 1:16:37 PM |
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| 1. ducks 2. squirrels 3. dolphins 4. pigs 5. Monkeys (chimps) |
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benryves GDNet+ Member since: 9/4/2003 From: Purley, United Kingdom |
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 Posted - 8/9/2004 1:19:19 PM |
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Tree Penguin Member since: 12/30/2003 From: I cant remember... |
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Posted - 8/9/2004 2:26:37 PM |
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| 1. Worms 2. snails 3. Seagels 4. Pigeons // LARGE gap There's a gorrila who can recognize colors and things when you say their name, and count numbers. Not sure if that's higher in my list than the 'i need a doctor' gorrila. By the way, dogs aren't smart, really trust me, they are DUMB. beavers are a lot smarter, they are the ones that can build whole communities so wel hidden that most won't see them easily, dogs can't even burry a bone properly, they can obey orders very well (and just as easily and effectively NOT obey them) but that has more to do with being rewarded and not, not with intelligence. Anyways that are just the beavers i've been pointed at and the dogs i have lived with. |
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23yrold3yrold GDNet+ Member since: 2/10/2001 From: Vector Sigma |
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Posted - 8/9/2004 2:37:16 PM |
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Quote: I so knew that was coming. Stereotypically dumb to smart animals? Hmm ... cockroach turtle penguin rabbit horse Jesus saves ... the rest of you take 2d4 fire damage. |
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Dmytry Member since: 12/9/2003 From: M 104 .... |
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Posted - 8/9/2004 2:44:10 PM |
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Quote: mostly agree with some exception: heh,why Arachnidae are lesser than Insects? There are some stupid insects,and also there are some stupid spiders as well... i'd guess,dumbest insect are not more dumb than dumbest spider.... but smartest insects are probably smarter than smartest spiders/scorpions. So,how i'd subdivide insects: 1: smallest non-flyuing insects ,smallest....can't remember exact name, i mean very-very small Arachnidae. 2: Big spiders,flies,etc. - most insects. 25: insects that can survive in human houses, Blattidae(cockroach (?)) 3: Spiders that are working together to build big net. 4: Hymenoptera Aculeata: Ants,bees,wasps and hornets.Isoptera: Termites. and all animals: 1:Protozoa - simplest animals,single-cell ones.(maybe in English it's not named animals.) Example: Infusoria,Ameba ,etc. 2:Hydras ,meduses,etc. and simplest worms. And so-on till shimpanze and delphins,too long to list 'em all.. |
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Eelco Member since: 3/31/2003 From: Enschede, Netherlands |
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Posted - 8/9/2004 2:52:21 PM |
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Quote: odd list. what makes rabbits so smart in your opinion? afaik they have only one skill and its running away. i wouldnt consider horses to be exeptionally smart either. id rate a turtle over a rabbit any day of the week anyway. turtles just arnt very expressive, but they seem not so stupid to me. they are much more resourcefull in braking out of their confinement than rabbits in any case. rating animals for stupidity is a tad pointless if you ask me. id wager al insects (to name just one huge group) have neglictible 'intelligence' in the human form. there isnt really a clear winner in this catogory. as for inteligent landanimals... i agree primates, but thats not really an insight, now is it  but a lot of rodents are exceptionally smart for their size, like rats and stuff. theyd probably be third, after primates and then catlike species. |
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Raloth Member since: 5/11/2003 |
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Posted - 8/9/2004 2:55:39 PM |
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| 1) George W. Bush 2) Yann L. Seriously though, I would say humans are the smartest on the planet. |
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Acoustica Member since: 4/29/2004 |
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Posted - 8/9/2004 3:00:59 PM |
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| 1)Chicken 2)Wombat 3)Fox 4)Elephant 5)Orangutang/taun (however you spell it ) |
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23yrold3yrold GDNet+ Member since: 2/10/2001 From: Vector Sigma |
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Posted - 8/9/2004 3:04:33 PM |
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Quote: I dunno. Like I said, he asked for "stereotypically dumber animals". If I were watching a cartoon with a rabbit and a turtle in it, I would asume the rabbit was the smart one and the turtle was the dumb one (story of The Tortoise And The Hare aside  ).Jesus saves ... the rest of you take 2d4 fire damage. |
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Starboy Member since: 11/15/2001 From: Manchester, United Kingdom |
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Posted - 8/9/2004 3:06:51 PM |
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| Deary me, some people don't have a sense of humour do they? |
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Eelco Member since: 3/31/2003 From: Enschede, Netherlands |
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Posted - 8/9/2004 3:08:40 PM |
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| youve been watching too much loony toons anyway, yes, ofcource an elephant, how could i forget. these should come after primates i think. |
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Fuzztrek Member since: 3/6/2002 From: Edmonton, Canada |
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 Posted - 8/9/2004 3:22:18 PM |
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| From various vegan threads, we know that the dumbest animals in the world are those that we eat (yet we are what we eat) |
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