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PSP 2 in the works?

Recent rumors from online news sources suggest that Sony is working on a new version of the PSP. The system is said to be a successor to the current system rather than a redesign, although rumors of a redesign have recently surfaced also.

Reports suggest that the new PSP will have a built in hard drive support from the beginning and will not be using the UMD media format like the current system which could rule out the possibility of direct backwards compatibility.

According to sources we should expect to see an appearance from the device, which has been referred to as the PSP 2 within the next three years.

A Sony representative responded to Gamedev.net's inquiry, saying: "As a policy SCEA does not comment on speculation or rumors, and thus we cannot comment on this report, as we have not made any announcements.."



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Yikes. They're seriously going to give that baby another go? Cut your losses and pretend you've never heard of a PSP. I hope this do-over ("successor" LOL) will turn out to be awesome, though I'm very doubtful. Mind you, I'm a fan of Sony's. I can't wait for my PS3, but wow... I'm glad that I dodged buying that PSP. (I still wouldn't mind having one, if someone gave me it for free with some games. )

Peace.

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You know I could think of thousands of game ideas for the PSP..and yet they can't get anything right with it, so they're gonna make another one? This doesn't seem likely to me. They're probably just doing something like the DS Lite redesign, though then again with all the bad calls Sony's been making lately, I wouldn't be surprised.

Seriously though, if they were smart they would've just ported the PSX library over to PSP.

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What's wrong with the PSP? I don't personally own one but I always thought it seemed pretty cool.

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The games suck though I paid like $50 to find out Prince of persia revelations is exactly the same as Prince of Persia Warrior within which I had already played on the xbox. Same for burnout and a dozen other games.

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I just got one from ebay. It rocks. SOCOM is awesome.

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this would be a real kick in the teeth to all those ppl that have brought a psp already.
personally i cant see whats wrong with the psp, ive heard the software on average for it is pretty crappy but i cant see on how improving the hardware is the right way of fixing this problem.

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this would be a real kick in the teeth to all those ppl that have brought a psp already.
personally i cant see whats wrong with the psp, ive heard the software on average for it is pretty crappy but i cant see on how improving the hardware is the right way of fixing this problem.

Well, I hear a lot of folks complaining about the analog nubby thingy. 'Sides, some PSX games can't be ported properly due the the presence of only a single nubby. Additionally, I heard complaints of the action buttons too close to the screen...somethin' like that.


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I love my PSP, but I'll be really pissed if they release a new one that's not backwards compatible. I've spent upwards $300 on games for the PSP - I've enjoyed all of them, but if I can't play them on their upgraded hardware...ugh. Yeah, there comes a time when you have to switch to next gen and restart your game collection, but the PSP is so new. I find it hard to believe that they're already working on a completely new design. There is so much that can and should be done with the existing PSP.

For all of you complaining about how alot of games are just ports of PSX classics, I agree. However, I never owned a PS/PS2 and being able to play all of those games for the first time with the convenience of a handheld is awesome :)

Also, I recently got into the homebrew scene and it's alot of fun - everyone interested in coding your own games for a handheld should check it out (some good places to start are here, here, and an awesome tutorial that will get you started here.) I really, really wish Sony would stop trying to step on the homebrew scene and instead embrace it.

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Make it open to indie development and fully support homebrew and it will sell like hot cakes. Mind you, I never had hot cakes but I would eat a PSP.

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Make it open to indie development and fully support homebrew and it will sell like hot cakes. Mind you, I never had hot cakes but I would eat a PSP.

People keep saying that, and I remain unconvinced. The percentage of the general population that gives a shit about homebrew software can probably be counted on one hand. The segment that would actually buy one only if it supported homebrew software is likely even smaller than that.

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Its not realy about support for the indie scene, its just, the game would become more diverce and you could fund something for everyone. Some people only play indie games.

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it might not means much though, remenber that ps3 have been in the "works" for the last 5 years at least

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Its not realy about support for the indie scene, its just, the game would become more diverce and you could fund something for everyone.

The only way this would matter in the slightest is if it (1) is extremely easy to download games to the PSP and (2) it has widespread commercial support out of the gate. If Popcap games makes all their stuff available on the PSP, then maybe it would become a valid point to non-developers. Or if HL2 for the PSP allows you to download mods. Without something along those lines, it'll be nothing more than a pointless "look what we can do" fact for comparing against the gameboy.
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Some people only play indie games.

Those people are in such a small minority that they might as well not exist.

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I disagree - not a month goes by without at least one mail gets forwarded to me with a link to one of those little flash games that are pretty good fun.

This kind of casual gaming is what would really expand the audience of handheld devices. I mean, remember the days of the C64 and Spectrum... the cover mounted demos on cassette tape... sometimes with reader submissions on? Some of the best games I remember playing I discovered like that, and made me think "hey, may be I could do this".

Enabling browsing and downloading of homebrew games officially on one of these devices could spur a generation to stop worrying about creating their own 3d engines and creating yet another first person shooter, and actually create something fun and innovative - shared amongst friends and then may be more.


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I disagree - not a month goes by without at least one mail gets forwarded to me with a link to one of those little flash games that are pretty good fun.

That's exactly why I mentioned popcap games. It could make a difference, if they can get enough little 'homebrew' games available at launch that it is a valid reason to buy a PSP. But without that, very few people are going to go "Wow! If I pay $300 for this, one day I might be able to play one or two cool little flash games? What a deal." And without a playerbase that wants the functionality, why should anybody bother targetting the PSP?

Making it an option could lay the groundwork for the PSP3 to get loads of sales due to such games, but I don't see how just opening it up to indie developers on its own will have to have much of an impact on the PSP2s sales.

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For all of you complaining about how alot of games are just ports of PSX classics, I agree. However, I never owned a PS/PS2 and being able to play all of those games for the first time with the convenience of a handheld is awesome :)


I sold my psp on ebay, i'd rather play games on a bigscreen and with a normal controller. The lack of good games and most games just being ps2 ports made me decide that. In addition my eyes started hurting after playing on the psp for two hours.



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"The segment that would actually buy one only if it supported homebrew software is likely even smaller than that."

So what about all the people who bought early home computers? ... Or the well over 130k developers on PalmOs as its open source? (And that figure was going back a few years).

Give everyone the chance to program it, and it will fly off the shelves. I don't own a PSP. But if I could program it, I would buy it in an instant.

Plus Sony will then have other games and other non-game products they can choose to give official Sony marketing backing if they like the concepts. Plus it would help their corporate image to be seen to be helping the little guy so to speak, to be seen to be encouraging indie development.

If they really want to expand their markets, then let other independent developers help them.

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"PalmOs as its open source" ... doh ... I meant to say open platform.

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Plain and simple. Sony failed at producing what they claimed was "the Game boy killer". I honestly believe they should cut thier losses and go on and focus more attention oj what they have been so successful at since the beginning. The home console market. The PSP started out as a great idea but I find it rather amusing that the majority of people I have talked to play more ROMs on it than offical released PSP games.

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Shadowlight/Donnell-Lee

Actually,
the PSP would have flown off the shelves if they would have made it so that you could use your PS1 and PS2 games in it. Also, the lack of the second analoge stick does hurt it since most players are use to it now, and actually expect it to be apart of gameplay. The PSP seems to target more mature players than the gameboy and this is good. However, they didn't do enough research into what the market expected and wanted. It seems they just studied the gamboy's stats and marketing and said "we can do better".

Also, they should have made the game saving features so that you could continue playing a game from the PS2 on the PSP and vise versa. Such a system would make it possible to play and beat even the longest games in less time, which means that players would be buying more games to fill in the new void. As is, having to buy the same game for both systems is offencive. Especially since the PSP games cost just as much as PS2 games and take twice as long to go down in price. That's just eeeeevil!

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I have been extremely happy with my PSP for about a year now. It should be noted that I did not have a PS2 which is where some of the complaints are coming from.

The two main complaints I have heard were the anolog stick positioning (which can be a bother although there are attachments to make it feel more like a PS2 controller) and slow load times (which is a bear in some games).

I bought Hot Shots Golf, MLB 06 The Show, Ys, Popolocrois, Lumines, and Legend Heroes and have enjoyed it very much.

I also have a 2GB memory card so that I can take my MP3 collection anywhere (including playing in my car through the dual CD/tape deck (although I do wish there were direct connections).

Playing UMD movies on the many plane trips is nice

And the homebrew games allows me to play ROMS from other game systems.

All in all, a PSP2 would probably be an improvement for load speeds and analog stick positioning but I'm happy with my PSP now.

I'm afraid that they'll try and block homebrew on the PSP2 which would be awful.

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So what about all the people who bought early home computers?

What about them?
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... Or the well over 130k developers on PalmOs as its open source? (And that figure was going back a few years).

So 130k developers on PalmOS. Now, how many of them had no interest in the platform except as a programming environment? And how many of them don't get paid to do so? And how many users of PalmOS are there relative to that figure? Considering that several million PSPs have been sold, 130k developers wouldn't be that impressive.

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come on guys the psp was made so you can have nice looking games on the go. Its the gameboy on steroids. Sony is a bitch for blocking homebrew but also wants to protect sales. I dont think anyonw can say anything untill they know facts from sony

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I think the PSP is fine as it is, all it needs is some good games! I dont think there is any point of wasting all that money and time on making a whole new console.

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