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#ActualServant of the Lord

Posted 18 November 2012 - 08:11 PM

Thanks for wanting to contribute and help others! Have you actually released any games, commercial or otherwise?

You asked for honest feedback, so here it goes: This seems to be a case of the blind leading the blind - that is, someone who is still trying to figure things out, giving his opinion and spreading it around as good advice, despite the advice not actually being good (but the one spreading it hasn't actually followed it long enough to find out that it's not good). We've all done that before, so don't feel too bad about that!

There are two sources of real knowledge: 1st hand experience (whether from practice or application), and 2nd hand experience passed on by others (who themselves gained it through practice or application). Unfortunately, the internet has dramatically increases the amount of people who think of something, but don't have experience, and spread around poisoned 2nd hand 'experience' where the 'experience' doesn't actually come from actual experience (and is just guesswork or something they got from someone else who got it from someone else who didn't fully understand what was being said).

A 'roadmap' is a map to a road someone has traveled. Here you are guessing there might be a possible road here, but haven't actually traveled down it, and are "mapping" a land you aren't familiar with, simply by guessing where the roads must be. Try mapping a foreign continent without seeing it, by just using hearsay from third parties and guesswork to fill in the gap. Imagine if the roadmaps you have in your car's glove compartment (or google maps) were mapped by people who didn't actually travel those roads and were just guessing based off of what other people had vaguely told them - we'd never be able to travel at all, because the maps would all lead us in the wrong directions, but give us the illusion that we were heading in the right direction.

It's really awesome that you want to help others, but your help must come from personal experience, or it's more destructive than beneficial. It's confusing, I know, because many people (who don't have experience) will pat you on the back and say, "Thanks for that! That's exactly what I needed! This will help alot!", except it's not what they need, and won't help, but the people thanking you (who, remember, don't have experience) don't have the knowledge yet, and since they *don't have* the knowledge, they can't compare their non-existent knowledge to the knowledge you are giving to see if it lines up as true or not, so they just assume (from ignorance) that the knowledge you are giving is good, and adopt it entirely (having a void of knowledge), despite it being faulty and poisoned and doing them long-term harm (but giving them the short-term illusion of wisdom).

They will eventually (most of the time) recover from the damage done (it usually isn't *too* drastic), and won't remember where they got that knowledge anyway, but just letting you know that if your goal is actually helping people, that help must be from real knowledge. Not beginner knowledge learned while in the process of learning (which is only half-formed knowledge), not the knowledge borrowed from someone else (which might be poisoned, or might not, and even if it isn't poisoned, you might not have understood it, making it warped knowledge), and not the knowledge from guesswork (unless you are mapping out the Californian coastline).

Thanks again for being eager to help! (Truly! I'm not being sarcastic) We really do need more friendly helpful people on the internet. We have plenty of friendly people, plenty of knowledgeable people, but we need people who are both friendly and knowledgeable, or it just causes problems. So don't let me turn you off from helping people, but just hold off on helping in areas you yourself are still learning - once you learn a topic (and have applied the knowledge turning it into experience), then please don't let me discourage you from sharing it. It is also perfectly fine to say, "Hey guys, I'm new and still learning. This is the plan *I* intend to take, but I don't yet know where it'll lead me."

Best of luck on your travels! Maybe you'll become an expert at mapping roads for all sorts of areas of technology.

[Edit:] My apologies if this came out too critical.

#5Servant of the Lord

Posted 18 November 2012 - 07:58 PM

Thanks for wanting to contribute and help others! Have you actually released any games, commercial or otherwise?

You asked for honest feedback, so here it goes: This seems to be a case of the blind leading the blind - that is, someone who is still trying to figure things out, giving his opinion and spreading it around as good advice, despite the advice not actually being good (but the one spreading it hasn't actually followed it long enough to find out that it's not good).

There are two sources of real knowledge: 1st hand experience (whether from practice or application), and 2nd hand experience passed on by others (who themselves gained it through practice or application). Unfortunately, the internet has dramatically increases the amount of people who think of something, but don't have experience, and spread around poisoned 2nd hand 'experience' where the 'experience' doesn't actually come from actual experience (and is just guesswork or something they got from someone else who got it from someone else who didn't fully understand what was being said).

A 'roadmap' is a map to a road someone has traveled. Here you are guessing there might be a possible road here, but haven't actually traveled down it, and are "mapping" a land you aren't familiar with, simply by guessing where the roads must be. Try mapping a foreign continent without seeing it, by just using hearsay from third parties and guesswork to fill in the gap. Imagine if the roadmaps you have in your car's glove compartment (or google maps) were mapped by people who didn't actually travel those roads and were just guessing based off of what other people had vaguely told them - we'd never be able to travel at all, because the maps would all lead us in the wrong directions, but give us the illusion that we were heading in the right direction.

It's really awesome that you want to help others, but your help must come from personal experience, or it's more destructive than beneficial. It's confusing, I know, because many people (who don't have experience) will pat you on the back and say, "Thanks for that! That's exactly what I needed! This will help alot!", except it's not what they need, and won't help, but the people thanking you (who, remember, don't have experience) don't have the knowledge yet, and since they *don't have* the knowledge, they can't compare their non-existent knowledge to the knowledge you are giving to see if it lines up as true or not, so they just assume (from ignorance) that the knowledge you are giving is good, and adopt it entirely (having a void of knowledge), despite it being faulty and poisoned and doing them long-term harm (but giving them the short-term illusion of wisdom).

They will eventually (most of the time) recover from the damage done (it usually isn't *too* drastic), and won't remember where they got that knowledge anyway, but just letting you know that if your goal is actually helping people, that help must be from real knowledge. Not beginner knowledge learned while in the process of learning (which is only half-formed knowledge), not the knowledge borrowed from someone else (which might be poisoned, or might not, and even if it isn't poisoned, you might not have understood it, making it warped knowledge), and not the knowledge from guesswork (unless you are mapping out the Californian coastline).

Thanks again for being eager to help! (Truly! I'm not being sarcastic) We really do need more friendly helpful people on the internet. We have plenty of friendly people, plenty of knowledgeable people, but we need people who are both friendly and knowledgeable, or it just causes problems. So don't let me turn you off from helping people, but just hold off on helping in areas you yourself are still learning - once you learn a topic (and have applied the knowledge turning it into experience), then please don't let me discourage you from sharing it. It is also perfectly fine to say, "Hey guys, I'm new and still learning. This is the plan *I* intend to take, but I don't yet know where it'll lead me."

Best of luck on your travels! Maybe you'll become an expert at mapping roads for all sorts of areas of technology.

[Edit:] My apologies if this came out too critical.

#4Servant of the Lord

Posted 18 November 2012 - 07:57 PM

Thanks for wanting to contribute and help others! Have you actually released any games, commercial or otherwise?

You asked for honest feedback, so here it goes: This seems to be a case of the blind leading the blind - that is, someone who is still trying to figure things out, giving his opinion and spreading it around as good advice, despite the advice not actually being good (but the one spreading it hasn't actually followed it long enough to find out that it's not good).

There are two sources of real knowledge: 1st hand experience (whether from practice or application), and 2nd hand experience passed on by others (who themselves gained it through practice or application). Unfortunately, the internet has dramatically increases the amount of people who think of something, but don't have experience, and spread around poisoned 2nd hand 'experience' where the 'experience' doesn't actually come from actual experience (and is just guesswork or something they got from someone else who got it from someone else who didn't fully understand what was being said).

A 'roadmap' is a map to a road someone has traveled. Here you are guessing there might be a possible road here, but haven't actually traveled down it, and are "mapping" a land you aren't familiar with, simply by guessing where the roads must be. Try mapping a foreign continent without seeing it, by just using hearsay from third parties and guesswork to fill in the gap. Imagine if the roadmaps you have in your car's glove compartment (or google maps) were mapped by people who didn't actually travel those roads and were just guessing based off of what other people had vaguely told them - we'd never be able to travel at all, because the maps would all lead us in the wrong directions, but give us the illusion that we were heading in the right direction.

It's really awesome that you want to help others, but your help must come from personal experience, or it's more destructive than beneficial. It's confusing, I know, because many people (who don't have experience) will pat you on the back and say, "Thanks for that! That's exactly what I needed! This will help alot!", except it's not what they need, and won't help, but the people thanking you (who, remember, don't have experience) don't have the knowledge yet, and since they *don't have* the knowledge, they can't compare their non-existent knowledge to the knowledge you are giving to see if it lines up as true or not, so they just assume (from ignorance) that the knowledge you are giving is good, and adopt it entirely (having a void of knowledge), despite it being faulty and poisoned and doing them long-term harm (but giving them the short-term illusion of wisdom).

They will eventually (most of the time) recover from the damage done (it usually isn't *too* drastic), and won't remember where they got that knowledge anyway, but just letting you know that if your goal is actually helping people, that help must be from real knowledge. Not beginner knowledge learned while in the process of learning (which is only half-formed knowledge), not the knowledge borrowed from someone else (which might be poisoned, or might not, and even if it isn't poisoned, you might not have understood it, making it warped knowledge), and not the knowledge from guesswork (unless you are mapping out the Californian coastline).

Thanks again for being eager to help! (Truly! I'm not being sarcastic) We really do need more friendly helpful people on the internet. We have plenty of friendly people, plenty of knowledgeable people, but we need people who are both friendly and knowledgeable, or it just causes problems. So don't let me turn you off from helping people, but just hold off on helping in areas you yourself are still learning - once you learn a topic (and have applied the knowledge turning it into experience), then please don't let me discourage you from sharing it. It is also perfectly fine to say, "Hey guys, I'm new and still learning. This is the plan *I* intend to take, but I don't yet know where it'll lead me."

Best of luck on your travels! Maybe you'll become an expert at mapping roads for all sorts of areas of technology.

[Edit:] My apologies if this came out too critical

#3Servant of the Lord

Posted 18 November 2012 - 06:56 PM

[Edit:] Removed post by my own volition - too pointlessly critical.

#2Servant of the Lord

Posted 18 November 2012 - 06:49 PM

Thanks for wanting to contribute and help others! Have you actually released any games, commercial or otherwise?

You asked for honest feedback, so here it goes: This seems to be a case of the blind leading the blind - that is, someone who is still trying to figure things out, giving his opinion and spreading it around as good advice, despite the advice not actually being good (but the one spreading it hasn't actually followed it long enough to find out that it's not good).

There are two sources of real knowledge: 1st hand experience (whether from practice or application), and 2nd hand experience passed on by others (who themselves gained it through practice or application). Unfortunately, the internet has dramatically increases the amount of people who think of something, but don't have experience, and spread around poisoned 2nd hand 'experience' where the 'experience' doesn't actually come from actual experience (and is just guesswork or something they got from someone else who got it from someone else who didn't fully understand what was being said).

A 'roadmap' is a map to a road someone has traveled. Here you are guessing there might be a possible road here, but haven't actually traveled down it, and are "mapping" a land you aren't familiar with, simply by guessing where the roads must be. Try mapping a foreign continent without seeing it, by just using hearsay from third parties and guesswork to fill in the gap. Imagine if the roadmaps you have in your car's glove compartment (or google maps) were mapped by people who didn't actually travel those roads and were just guessing based off of what other people had vaguely told them - we'd never be able to travel at all, because the maps would all lead us in the wrong directions, but give us the illusion that we were heading in the right direction.

It's really awesome that you want to help others, but your help must come from personal experience, or it's more destructive than beneficial. It's confusing, I know, because many people (who don't have experience) will pat you on the back and say, "Thanks for that! That's exactly what I needed! This will help alot!", except it's not what they need, and won't help, but the people thanking you (who, remember, don't have experience) don't have the knowledge yet, and since they *don't have* the knowledge, they can't compare their non-existent knowledge to the knowledge you are giving to see if it lines up as true or not, so they just assume (from ignorance) that the knowledge you are giving is good, and adopt it entirely (having a void of knowledge), despite it being faulty and poisoned and doing them long-term harm (but giving them the short-term illusion of wisdom).

They will eventually (most of the time) recover from the damage done (it usually isn't *too* drastic), and won't remember where they got that knowledge anyway, but just letting you know that if your goal is actually helping people, that help must be from real knowledge. Not beginner knowledge learned while in the process of learning (which is only half-formed knowledge), not the knowledge borrowed from someone else (which might be poisoned, or might not, and even if it isn't poisoned, you might not have understood it, making it warped knowledge), and not the knowledge from guesswork (unless you are mapping out the Californian coastline).

Thanks again for being eager to help! (Truly! I'm not being sarcastic) We really do need more friendly helpful people on the internet. We have plenty of friendly people, plenty of knowledgeable people, but we need people who are both friendly and knowledgeable, or it just causes problems. So don't let me turn you off from helping people, but just hold off on helping in areas you yourself are still learning - once you learn a topic (and have applied the knowledge turning it into experience), then please don't let me discourage you from sharing it. It is also perfectly fine to say, "Hey guys, I'm new and still learning. This is the plan *I* intend to take, but I don't yet know where it'll lead me."

Best of luck on your travels! Maybe you'll become an expert at mapping roads for all sorts of areas of technology. Posted Image

#1Servant of the Lord

Posted 18 November 2012 - 06:39 PM

Thanks for wanting to contribute and help others! Have you actually released any games, commercial or otherwise?

You asked for honest feedback, so here it goes: This seems to be a case of the blind leading the blind - that is, someone who is still trying to figure things out, giving his opinion and spreading it around as good advice, despite the advice not actually being good (but the one spreading it hasn't actually followed it long enough to find out that it's not good).

There are two sources of real knowledge: 1st hand experience (whether from practice or application), and 2nd hand experience passed on by others (who themselves gained it through practice or application). Unfortunately, the internet has dramatically increases the amount of people who think of something, but don't have experience, and spread around poisoned 2nd hand 'experience' where the 'experience' doesn't actually come from actual experience (and is just guesswork or something they got from someone else who got it from someone else who didn't fully understand what was being said).

A 'roadmap' is a map to a road someone has traveled. Here you are guessing there might be a possible road here, but haven't actually traveled down it, and are "mapping" a land you aren't familiar with, simply by guessing where the roads must be. Try mapping a foreign continent without seeing it, by just using hearsay from third parties and guesswork to fill in the gap. Imagine if the roadmaps you have in your car's glove compartment (or google maps) were mapped by people who didn't actually travel those roads and were just guessing based off of what other people had vaguely told them - we'd never be able to travel at all, because the maps would all lead us in the wrong directions, but give us the illusion that we were heading in the right direction.

It's really awesome that you want to help others, but your help must come from personal experience, or it's more destructive than beneficial. It's confusing, I know, because many people (who don't have experience) will pat you on the back and say, "Thanks for that! That's exactly what I needed! This will help alot!", except it's not what they need, and won't help, but the people thanking you (who, remember, don't have experience) don't have the knowledge yet, and since they *don't have* the knowledge, they can't compare their non-existent knowledge to the knowledge you are giving to see if it lines up as true or not, so they just assume (from ignorance) that the knowledge you are giving is good, and adopt it entirely (having a void of knowledge), despite it being faulty and poisoned and doing them long-term harm (but giving them the short-term illusion of wisdom).

They will eventually (most of the time) recover from the damage done (it usually isn't *too* drastic), and won't remember where they got that knowledge anyway, but just letting you know that if your goal is actually helping people, that help must be from real knowledge. Not beginner knowledge learned while in the process of learning (which is only half-formed knowledge), not the knowledge borrowed from someone else (which might be poisoned, or might not, and even if it isn't poisoned, you might not have understood it, making it warped knowledge), and not the knowledge from guesswork (unless you are mapping out the Californian coastline).

Thanks again for being eager to help! (Truly! I'm not being sarcastic) We really do need more friendly helpful people on the internet. We have plenty of friendly people, plenty of knowledgeable people, but we need people who are both friendly and knowledgeable, or it just causes problems. So don't let me turn you off from helping people, but just hold off on helping in areas you yourself are still learning - once you learn a topic (and have applied the knowledge turning it into experience), then please don't let me discourage you from sharing it. It is also perfectly fine to say, "Hey guys, I'm new and still learning. This is the plan *I* intend to take, but I don't yet know where it'll lead me."

Best of luck on your travels! Maybe in the future you'll be an expert at mapping roads for all sorts of people - I hope so. Posted Image

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