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### #ActualVeleran

Posted 30 November 2012 - 05:31 AM

Thanks for the replies.I am not thinking anything big.I am used in making 3d stuff so far.The 2d would require too much extra work for rendering frames if i have to model all sculpt then in mudbox and paint ,animate and last render the sprites to files.

I would gladly do 2d horror cartoon platformer or Castlelvania-like or Rastan saga inspired small game but i do not know if the effort would worth it,with other words i do not know if it would sell enough to justify the trouble i would get into.

If i can manage to just paint by hand the graphics and they look good ,then i got to go browse the Game maker forum.
Cant they make a free game maker for 3d stuff ?

Ashaman, about first learning the basics like you first should study anatomy to make sculpture (i m a sculpture of plasteline and clay working mostly relief) i was trying to say i can not program the hard core of the engine to adapt it to each game.
Just wanted an easy,visual script based engine,that has enough buttons visible and drop down lists with defaut prefabs to check modify..
The thing is most of the effort goes in making all the million things you need to fill game and polish it.After all the daily work that needs to be done to the graphics there is nt much time and strenght left to do much scripting to link all events together and add atmosphere.
Just the run level and test mechanics needs lots of time.Dont have time for all and cant ask for help,at least not until i know the whereabouts to make levels and set up the basics to make and post viseo.
But even then i dont trust that others would stay in the project.Most say i ve got something that came up-got to go -bye and luck-almost like in the party members that leave party in the mmo's.

At 1999 i was running few custom Unreal levels but did not go far.Around September that year Valve's Torque came out and i wanted to get that but i did not have means to buy it through the net and it got forgotten for long and i later got into genesis based Reality Factory.
I could set up the world events through scripting like :When the Orc chieftain health drops below 40 ,its triggers an event state to on where the door opens and the monster can try making an escape or raising the highest amount of health the player can have making it look like the dungeons you cleared so far made you stronger etc.

I say so that it does 'nt look like i do not want to script at all.
That Udk got something that is supposed to make scripting visual and easy enough but it i can not understand much of the video tutorials and i was checking Udk since long,since it first came out.
I expected that if i see watch every day the video tuts i might learn something but it looked like some day i will come across something can not overcome and will have to abandon project and all effort would go wasted for nothing.

Many artists might make levels with custom prefabs , nice shaders ,might put some of their own characters but i think they do not go further that and create a small game,they just make some level you can walk through it.
Almost all demo videos of small games i ve seen made in Udk were done from programmers.

My brother proposed me try Udk again but not only i was at minimum requirements then,but as i said so i did not understand much and i do not want the 100$fee and the rest they keep if the sales go well above a certain amount. Udk has great community and you do not have to wait long until you get replies in the forums. I also tried cryengine at march 2005 and i liked it,just the low level like scripting looked too heavy for me to learn so i asked for help no one came and i abandoned, Recently, when it became free to use giving only 20 % of sales,i went back to check again and asked the forums but they told me it is heavy to mod. I hope the Torque engine has enough free demos to help me get started and that its forum community will keep being alive for long. I will download torque,it cant be that bad generally,in manner of updates and anything. The question i did in the first place is in few words:Could there be another good free 3d game engine these days besides Udk,Unity,Cryengine,and Torque..seems no form what i see..... Thanks again all,you helped a lot. ### #2Veleran Posted 30 November 2012 - 05:31 AM Thanks for the replies.I am not thinking anything big.I am used in making 3d stuff so far.The 2d would require too much extra work for rendering frames if i have to model all sculpt then in mudbox and paint ,animate and last render the sprites to files. I would gladly do 2d horror cartoon platformer or Castlelvania-like or Rastan saga inspired small game but i do not know if the effort would worth it,with other words i do not know if it would sell enough to justify the trouble i would get into. If i can manage to just paint by hand the graphics and they look good ,then i got to go browse the Game maker forum. Cant they make a free game maker for 3d stuff ? Ashaman, about first learning the basics like you first should study anatomy to make sculpture (i m a sculpture of plasteline and clay working mostly relief) i was trying to say i can not program the hard core of the engine to adapt it to each game. Just wanted an easy,visual script based engine,that has enough buttons visible and drop down lists with defaut prefabs to check modify.. The thing is most of the effort goes in making all the million things you need to fill game and polish it.After all the daily work that needs to be done to the graphics there is nt much time and strenght left to do much scripting to link all events together and add atmosphere. Just the run level and test mechanics needs lots of time.Dont have time for all and cant ask for help,at least not until i know the whereabouts to make levels and set up the basics to make and post viseo. But even then i dont trust that others would stay in the project.Most say i ve got something that came up-got to go -bye and luck-almost like in the party members that leave party in the mmo's. At 1999 i was running few custom Unreal levels but did not go far.Around September that year Valve's Torque came out and i wanted to get that but i did not have means to buy it through the net and it got forgotten for long and i later got into genesis based Reality Factory. I could set up the world events through scripting like :When the Orc chieftain health drops below 40 ,its triggers an event state to on where the door opens and the monster can try making an escape or raising the highest amount of health the player can have making it look like the dungeons you cleared so far made you stronger etc. I say so that it does 'nt look like i do not want to script at all. That Udk got something that is supposed to make scripting visual and easy enough but it i can not understand much of the video tutorials and i was checking Udk since long,since it first came out. I expected that if i see watch every day the video tuts i might learn something but it looked like some day i will come across something can not overcome and will have to abandon project and all effort would go wasted for nothing. Many artists might make levels with custom prefabs , nice shaders ,might put some of their own characters but i think they do not go further that and create a small game,they just make some level you can walk through it. Almost all demo videos of small games i ve seen made in Udk were done from programmers. My brother proposed me try Udk again but not only i was at minimum requirements then,but as i said so i did not understand much and i do not want the 100$ fee and the rest they keep if the sales go well above a certain amount.
Udk has great community and you do not have to wait long until you get replies in the forums.

I also tried cryengine at march 2005 and i liked it,just the low level like scripting looked too heavy for me to learn so i asked for help no one came and i abandoned,
Recently, when it became free to use giving only 20 % of sales,i went back to check again and asked the forums but they told me it is heavy to mod.

I hope the Torque engine has enough free demos to help me get started and that its forum community will keep being alive for long.
I will download torque,it cant be that bad generally,in manner of updates and anything.

The question i did in the first place is in few words:Could there be another good free 3d game engine these days besides Udk,Unity,Cryengine,and Torque..seems no form what i see.....

Thanks again all,you helped a lot.

### #1Veleran

Posted 30 November 2012 - 05:12 AM

<p>Thanks for the replies.I am thinking small.The 2d would require too much extra work for rendering frames because i would have to model all sculpt then in mudbox and paint ,animate and last render the sprites to files.</p>
<p>I would gladly do 2d horror cartoon platformer or Castlelvania-like or Rastan saga inspired small game but i do not know if the effort would worth it,with other words i do not know if it would sell enough to justify the trouble i would get into.</p>
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<p>Ashaman, about first learning the basics like you first should study anatomy to make sculpture (i m a sculpture of plasteline and clay working mostly relief) i was trying to say i can not program the hard core of the engine to adapt it to each game.</p>
<p>Just wanted an easy,visual script based engine,that has enough buttons visible and drop down lists with defaut prefabs to check modify..</p>
<p>The thing is most of the effort goes in making all the million things you need to fill game and polish it.After all the daily work that needs to be done to the graphics there is nt much time and strenght left to do much scripting to link all events together and add atmosphere.</p>
<p>Just the run level and test mechanics needs lots of time.Dont have time for all and cant ask for help,at least not until i know the whereabouts to make levels and set up the basics to make and post viseo.</p>
<p>But even then i dont trust that others would stay in the project.Most say i ve got something that came up-got to go -bye and luck-almost like in the party members that leave party in the mmo&#39;s.</p>
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<p>At 1999 i was running few custom Unreal levels but did not go far.Around September that year Valve&#39;s Torque came out and i wanted to get that but i did not have means to buy it through the net and it got forgotten for long and i later got into genesis based Reality Factory.</p>
<p>I  could set up the world events through  scripting like :When the Orc chieftain health drops below 40 ,its triggers an event state to on where the door opens and the monster can try making an escape or raising the highest amount of health the player can have making it look like the dungeons you cleared so far made you stronger etc.</p>
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<p>I say so that it does &#39;nt look like i do not want to script at all.</p>
<p>That Udk got something that is supposed to make scripting visual and easy enough but it i can not understand much of the video tutorials and i was checking Udk since long,since it first came out.</p>
<p>I expected that if i see watch every day the video tuts i might learn something but it looked like some day i will come across something  can not overcome and will have to abandon project and all effort would go wasted for nothing.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Many artists might make levels with custom prefabs , nice shaders ,might put some of their own  characters but i think they do not go further that and create a small game,they just make some level you can walk through it.</p>
<p>Almost all demo videos of small games i ve seen made in Udk were done from programmers.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>My brother proposed me try Udk again but not only i was at minimum requirements then,but as i said so i did not understand much and i do not want the 100\$ fee and the rest they keep if the sales go well above a certain amount.</p>
<p>Udk has great community and you do not have to wait long until you get  replies in the forums.</p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>I also tried cryengine at march 2005 and i liked it,just the low level like scripting looked too heavy for me to learn so i asked for help no one came and i abandoned,</p>
<p>Recently, when it became free to use giving only 20 % of sales,i went back to&nbs

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