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#ActualL. Spiro

Posted 22 January 2013 - 12:39 AM

Identical twins also do not have the same fingerprints. That’s not magic—just genetics.

Fingerprints are the perfect analogy; they're not genetics at all. Fingerprints form their unique patterns depending on how you bump around with your foetal environment. Your mind is formed in exactly the same way - the chaotic bumping into your environment.



In your case, you bumped around in just the right way that both these modes of vision were well exercised, and thus found it natural to slip into this mode of thought when drawing, leading you to early talent.

By this point it seems as though we are arguing basically the same thing. I am simplifying it to the words “innate ability” while you are describing a scientific process resulting in the same thing.

But I have a feeling that you would want to take it further than just bumping around, position inside the womb, etc.
I can’t agree. Not that there is any way to prove it, but I simply don’t believe that 2 fetuses get created exactly the same way if bumping, position, mother’s diet, etc., are all identical.
Just the same as we all look different due to how the different atoms/particles/cells got distributed as we are constructed, we also have different internal structures. If fewer cells get distributed to certain parts of the brain, a person is born blind or deaf, dumb or smart, wired for skill in this or in that, etc.

And yes you can come up with scientific theories as to why the cells got distributed how they did but then you start to miss the point.
Everything is science, so when we talk about innate abilities we accept that there is some predictable logical scientific rationale behind the end result, but it’s so complex we can’t understand nor predict it.
“Innate ability” is just a simplified term for all those complex unpredictable happenings.

 

This is off topic, but it's a good opportunity to point out that many of the down-votes that you get on this site to this day are because of the same kind of miscommunication, where your good intentions are betrayed by a lack of tact.

It’s also keeping me from being a moderator for a very long time, and I am aware of it.
I originally made the conscious choice to be a little over-the-top direct, but it’s gone too far and in the last few weeks I have toned it down.
I even put a smiley in one of my replies a few days ago (“Hello and welcome to the site! smile.png”).
And then my computer crashed and I didn’t want to rewrite the reply again.  sad.png 

 

I didn't say that at all.

Not you, just a slew of people throughout my life, on deviantArt, etc.


L. Spiro


#1L. Spiro

Posted 21 January 2013 - 07:43 PM


Identical twins also do not have the same fingerprints. That’s not magic—just genetics.

Fingerprints are the perfect analogy; they're not genetics at all. Fingerprints form their unique patterns depending on how you bump around with your foetal environment. Your mind is formed in exactly the same way - the chaotic bumping into your environment.



In your case, you bumped around in just the right way that both these modes of vision were well exercised, and thus found it natural to slip into this mode of thought when drawing, leading you to early talent.
 


By this point it seems as though we are arguing basically the same thing. I am simplifying it to the words “innate ability” while you are describing a scientific process resulting in the same thing.

But I have a feeling that you would want to take it further than just bumping around, position inside the womb, etc.
I can’t agree. Not that there is any way to prove it, but I simply don’t believe that 2 fetuses get created exactly the same way if bumping, position, mother’s diet, etc., are all identical.
Just the same as we all look different due to how the different atoms/particles/cells got distributed as we are constructed, we also have different internal structures. If fewer cells get distributed to certain parts of the brain, a person is born blind or deaf, dumb or smart, wired for skill in this or in that, etc.

And yes you can come up with scientific theories as to why the cells got distributed how they did but then you start to miss the point.
Everything is science, so when we talk about innate abilities we accept that there is some predictable logical scientific rationale behind the end result, but it’s so complex we can’t understand nor predict it.
“Innate ability” is just a simplified term for all those complex unpredictable happenings.

 
This is off topic, but it's a good opportunity to point out that many of the down-votes that you get on this site to this day are because of the same kind of miscommunication, where your good intentions are betrayed by a lack of tact.
It’s also keeping me from being a moderator for a very long time, and I am aware of it.
I originally made the conscious choice to be a little over-the-top direct, but it’s gone too far and in the last few weeks I have toned it down.
I even put a smiley in on of my replies a few days ago (“Hello and welcome to the site! smile.png”).
And then my computer crashed and I didn’t want to rewrite the reply again.  sad.png 

 
I didn't say that at all.
Not you, just a slew of people throughout my life, on deviantArt, etc.


L. Spiro

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