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#ActualHodgman

Posted 27 March 2013 - 09:36 PM

Citation Needed

The link at the top of the original post.

The south threatened their survival while the US flew B-52 bombers from Guam to Korea and back in a nuclear bombing drill!

What do you expect? If (we go back a few decades where this is possible, and) Russia did such a thing to the US, the US would certainly make similar threats back towards Russia.

 

From the article:
The threat from the North’s Korean People’s Army Supreme Command came only hours after President Park Geun-hye of South Korea warned that the North Korean leadership could ensure its survival only when...

“They should be mindful that everything will be reduced to ashes and flames the moment the first attack [from the south] is unleashed,” the North Korean command said...

 

So, "you will not survive unless you bend to our will", followed by "if you attack us then everything will burn".

That's not what we report in our headlines though, is it? We just report that the north has made threats, and do our best to imply there's no reason for them.

We certainly don't mention that we were threatening them to abandon their nuclear programme, while flying nuclear bombers overhead!

 

Note that the article didn't include an earlier paragraph from the north, reinforcing that the north was threatening a counter attack, not initial aggression:

We will demonstrate with the practical military action the firm will of the army and people of the DPRK to take counteraction to defend the sovereignty and dignity of the supreme leadership of the country.

 

So using this press release as evidence that the North is going to start a war is a bit silly. They were threatened with nuclear destruction, and they issued counter-threats.

Now, go question why our press is making it look like the reverse happened... Maybe the US wants there to be a war?

 

[edit] To be fair again, "bend to our will" included "stop provoking us" as well as "lay down your arms". So both sides are using earlier provocations by the other in order to justify their current provocations.


#7Hodgman

Posted 27 March 2013 - 09:28 PM

Citation Needed

The link at the top of the original post. The south threatened their survival while the US flew B-52 bombers from Guam to Korea and back in a nuclear bombing drill!

What do you expect? If (we go back a few decades where this is possible, and) Russia did such a thing to the US, the US would certainly make similar threats back towards Russia.

 

From the article:
The threat from the North’s Korean People’s Army Supreme Command came only hours after President Park Geun-hye of South Korea warned that the North Korean leadership could ensure its survival only when...

“They should be mindful that everything will be reduced to ashes and flames the moment the first attack [from the south] is unleashed,” the North Korean command said...

 

So, "you will not survive unless you bend to our will", followed by "if you attack us then everything will burn".

That's not what we report in our headlines though, is it? We just report that the north has made threats, and do our best to imply there's no reason for them.

We certainly don't mention that we were threatening them to abandon their nuclear programme, while flying nuclear bombers overhead!

 

Note that the article didn't include an earlier paragraph from the north, reinforcing that the north was threatening a counter attack, not initial aggression:

We will demonstrate with the practical military action the firm will of the army and people of the DPRK to take counteraction to defend the sovereignty and dignity of the supreme leadership of the country.

 

So using this press release as evidence that the North is going to start a war is a bit silly. They were threatened with nuclear destruction, and they issued counter-threats.

Now, go question why our press is making it look like the reverse happened...

 

[edit] To be fair again, "bend to our will" included "stop provoking us" as well as "lay down your arms". So both sides are using earlier provocations by the other in order to justify their current provocations.


#6Hodgman

Posted 27 March 2013 - 09:27 PM

Citation Needed

The link at the top of the original post. The south threatened their survival while the US flew B-52 bombers from Guam to Korea and back in a nuclear bombing drill!

What do you expect? If (we go back a few decades where this is possible, and) Russia did such a thing to the US, the US would certainly make similar threats back towards Russia.

 

From the article:
The threat from the North’s Korean People’s Army Supreme Command came only hours after President Park Geun-hye of South Korea warned that the North Korean leadership could ensure its survival only when...

“They should be mindful that everything will be reduced to ashes and flames the moment the first attack [from the south] is unleashed,” the North Korean command said...

 

So, "you will not survive unless you bend to our will", followed by "if you attack us then everything will burn".

That's not what we report in our headlines though, is it? We just report that the north has made threats, and do our best to imply there's no reason for them.

We certainly don't mention that we were threatening them to abandon their nuclear programme, while flying nuclear bombers overhead!

 

Note that the article didn't include an earlier paragraph from the north, reinforcing that the north was threatening a counter attack, not initial aggression:

We will demonstrate with the practical military action the firm will of the army and people of the DPRK to take counteraction to defend the sovereignty and dignity of the supreme leadership of the country.

 

[edit] To be fair again, "bend to our will" included "stop provoking us" as well as "lay down your arms". So both sides are using earlier provocations by the other in order to justify their current provocations.


#5Hodgman

Posted 27 March 2013 - 09:25 PM

Citation Needed

The link at the top of the original post. The south threatened their survival while the US flew B52 bombers nearby in a nuclear bombing drill!

The threat from the North’s Korean People’s Army Supreme Command came only hours after President Park Geun-hye of South Korea warned that the North Korean leadership could ensure its survival only when...

“They should be mindful that everything will be reduced to ashes and flames the moment the first attack [from the south] is unleashed,” the North Korean command said...

 

So, "you will not survive unless you bend to our will", followed by "if you attack us then everything will burn".

That's not what we report in our headlines though, is it? We just report that the north has made threats, and do our best to imply there's no reason for them.

We certainly don't mention that we were threatening them to abandon their nuclear programme, while flying nuclear bombers overhead!

 

Note that the article didn't include an earlier paragraph from the north, reinforcing that the north was threatening a counter attack, not initial aggression:

We will demonstrate with the practical military action the firm will of the army and people of the DPRK to take counteraction to defend the sovereignty and dignity of the supreme leadership of the country.

 

[edit] To be fair again, "bend to our will" included "stop provoking us" as well as "lay down your arms". So both sides are using earlier provocations by the other in order to justify their current provocations.


#4Hodgman

Posted 27 March 2013 - 09:21 PM

Citation Needed

The link at the top of the original post. The south threatened their survival while the US flew B52 bombers nearby in a nuclear bombing drill!

The threat from the North’s Korean People’s Army Supreme Command came only hours after President Park Geun-hye of South Korea warned that the North Korean leadership could ensure its survival only when...

“They should be mindful that everything will be reduced to ashes and flames the moment the first attack [from the south] is unleashed,” the North Korean command said...

 

So, "you will not survive unless you bend to our will", followed by "if you attack us then everything will burn". That's not we report though, is it? We just report that the north has made threats for no reason.

 

Note that the article didn't include an earlier paragraph from the north, reinforcing that they're threatening a counter attack, not an initial agression:

We will demonstrate with the practical military action the firm will of the army and people of the DPRK to take counteraction to defend the sovereignty and dignity of the supreme leadership of the country.

 

[edit] To be fair again, "bend to our will" included "stop provoking us" as well as "lay down your arms". So both sides are using earlier provocations by the other in order to justify their current provocations.


#3Hodgman

Posted 27 March 2013 - 09:16 PM

Citation Needed

The link at the top of the original post. The south threatened their survival while the US flew B52 bombers nearby in a nuclear bombing drill!

The threat from the North’s Korean People’s Army Supreme Command came only hours after President Park Geun-hye of South Korea warned that the North Korean leadership could ensure its survival only when...

“They should be mindful that everything will be reduced to ashes and flames the moment the first attack [from the south] is unleashed,” the North Korean command said...


So, "you will not survive unless you bend to our will", followed by "if you attack us then everything will burn". That's not we report though, is it? We just report that the north has made threats for no reason.

 

[edit] To be fair again, "bend to our will" included "stop provoking us" as well as "lay down your arms". So both sides are using earlier provocations by the other in order to justify their current provocations.


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