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#Actualtstrimple

Posted 04 July 2013 - 02:25 PM

The idea that you have to work under someone for 10 years to learn building codes is ridiculous. That is clearly in place to protect established contractors as it would drastically reduce competition. This should be evident by your dad's reluctance to do work inside the city despite the fact that he should be more than capable of the same work the licensed contractors are able to do. I'm not saying they shouldn't require licenses, I'm saying the requirements shouldn't be so onerous as to drastically reduce competition. Heavy regulation actually support monopolies who can afford to jump through all the hoops. They essentially are paying a tax to reduce competition.


#1tstrimple

Posted 04 July 2013 - 02:20 PM

 

 

 What sorts of walls were you hitting?
 

 

Construction, for example, you and the management you hire to do the jobs have to submit a complete 5 year work history - if any work you have performed with in the last 5 years is not directly related to the type of construction license your applying for, your ineligible. You also have to explain "employment holes", provide complete references for each "job".

 If your already  in business for yourself, you have to provide contact information for ALL of your clients for the past 5 years, provide all of your business receipts, AND provide complete histories / references for all of your management.

 If "holes" between projects are too long, your ineligible. If "holes" in your management staff are too long, your ineligible.

 

 On top of that, Detroit requires you take a specific college course ( $18,000 ) as part of the licensing process for construction ( has nothing to do with building codes ) .

 

that doesn't sound like protecting other businesses, it more sounds like ensuring that the people doing the job are qualified to do so.

 

my dad is a self-employed plumber in upstate new york.  he has been for the past 30 years, and before that for ~3-5 years he worked in supply houses for construction companys.  he does not work within city limits(not new york city) because he doesn't want to take the course to get a license.  however, to even apply for that license, you have to have at least 10 years worth of working experiance doing the job.  this is done by working under other contractors for those years, and getting references from them.  this is not because the people in charge want to protect existing businesses, it's because they don't want people that have no idea what they are doing creating unlivable conditions.  Things have to be done by the codes the city/state/government creates, which means years of experience dealing with those codes, by working under people who have years of experience doing what it is you want to do.

 

 

 

The idea that you have to work under someone for 10 years to learn building codes is ridiculous. That is clearly in place to protect established contractors as it would drastically reduce competition. This should be evident by your dad's reluctance to do work inside the city despite the fact that he should be more than capable of the same work the licensed contractors are able to do. I'm not saying they shouldn't require licenses, I'm saying the requirements shouldn't be so onerous as to drastically reduce competition.


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