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#1 Extrarius   Members   -  Reputation: 1412

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Posted 12 February 2003 - 10:58 AM

I''m working on my (personal) website and I''m trying to think of a good way to make the logo radiate a feeling of "insanity" and "strange". I''ve tried using various types of noise in different ways, but for some reason it always ends up feeling like the theme is "chaos" (or sometimes "order") which is not what I want. Any ideas, examples, etc?

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Posted 12 February 2003 - 11:02 AM

go away!

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Posted 12 February 2003 - 11:26 AM

Curved lettering with no logic to it - I don't know, pretend you're crazy and draw what a crazy person would draw. Imagine if you gave the work to a crazy person what you would get back from it.

[edited by - Waverider on February 12, 2003 6:26:40 PM]

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Posted 12 February 2003 - 12:43 PM

If you already have a symbol try dividing it into squares then pushing some squares back and pulling some forward try using noise on the joins afterward.

If you don't have a symbol I think a WARPED brain or a cerebral cortex
with your title letters wrapped around it would be cool

Send us the link to your site when you finish
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[edited by - ultravioletdreams on February 12, 2003 7:53:09 PM]

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Posted 12 February 2003 - 12:57 PM

vomit.. definately vomit.
cant be crazy and not vomit.

/me pukes on his keyboard

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#6 Extrarius   Members   -  Reputation: 1412

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Posted 12 February 2003 - 06:47 PM

Not exactly what I want, but its a start -
http://art.psychosanity.com/crazy.jpg

What do you think?

#7 owl   Banned   -  Reputation: 364

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Posted 12 February 2003 - 07:00 PM

What about something like:


You can copy the idea and make doors instead.

#8 Extrarius   Members   -  Reputation: 1412

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Posted 12 February 2003 - 07:50 PM

Strange, I've had several people suggest something like that =-)

Which one is better:
http://art.psychosanity.com/crazy.jpg
http://art.psychosanity.com/crazy2.jpg
http://art.psychosanity.com/crazy3.jpg
?

[edited by - Extrarius on February 13, 2003 3:32:22 AM]

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Posted 12 February 2003 - 08:14 PM

The opening credits in the movie Se7en. Look like they were written by a very very disturbed person.

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Posted 13 February 2003 - 12:53 AM

quote:
Original post by Extrarius
Strange, I''ve had several people suggest something like that =-)

Which one is better:
http://art.psychosanity.com/crazy.jpg
http://art.psychosanity.com/crazy2.jpg
http://art.psychosanity.com/crazy3.jpg
?



It looks too geometric to be insane... I mean, it doesnt suggest insanity at all. The Seven7 suggestion is good.
Also the guy with the valve in the eye (valve logo - Half Life) looks very very insane and disgusting.

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Posted 13 February 2003 - 04:14 AM

First of all, don''t use complementary colors Crazy or not, they nullify each other and in return you get something subtle and grayish. Just trust me on this one, red and green are bad colors Actually, a trick I was taught in my graphic design class (similar situation, our goal was "wild" however), taking complementary colors, and shifting one color slightly left or right on the wheel. This gets you as opposite of a color as possible, without the deadening effect. For example, red and teal or green and purple.

Another idea is to maybe mess up your kerning on purpose? Just "CRAZY" is too ordered and neat. (To adjust kerning between letters, when you are using your text tool (in photoshop at least), hold down the option key while moving your left and right arrows... I don''t know what the command is for PC Its probably alt...) Mix a few letters around, mess with the spacing... Just a suggestion

Play with your transform tool, rasterize your text...

And my ultimate suggestion - Play with your layer blend modes!! You can get some really interesting effects with these (Once again, in photoshop by your layers menu... this is right beside you layers toolbox... Difference and Exclusion have some interesting effects.) A good process to go through on a layer you want to blend into your image is to change the blend mode, alter the transparency on the layer, experiment with it, then set the blend mode to normal, put it below the image you want to blend with in your layer order, and take the new top image and play with those blend modes too... (if that makes any sense... I''m kinda in a hurry )

But, just a few suggestions to play with

- Tommy

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Posted 13 February 2003 - 06:09 AM

Does anybody think http://art.psychosanity.com/crazy6.jpg is better? Or at least a step in the right direction?

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Posted 13 February 2003 - 06:33 AM

Yes, it looks a little better. Still not really insane though...

Ask yourself: what is insanity?
Disorder? An insane person can be very much ''in order''. I think insanity is more than that.

Se7en is a very good example, just take the title: the number seven instead of a v. Very simple, but very effective.

#14 Extrarius   Members   -  Reputation: 1412

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Posted 13 February 2003 - 06:37 AM

I agree that insanity is not disorder, but I''m not sure what it is.

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Posted 13 February 2003 - 07:31 AM

im sure some of you are familiar with M.C. Escher his work is not insane itself its planned, methodical and tightly rendered but gives you that feeling of wtf(am i looking at this right how the hell does that work!) A master in his field ive not seen anyone to match his style.
Link

http://www.worldofescher.com/gallery/

Grafitti art has some of Eschers style in it but with a bit more attitude, might not be what your looking for but it encompasses a wide range of styles an always interesting to see what gets thrown up

http://www.artcrimes.org/

Now this guy was insane Mr Salvidor Dali. You will have seen some of his artwork at one point or another, remember the dripping clock

http://www.dali-gallery.com/dali.htm

At the least these links might give you some motivation or direction as to where you want to go

peace
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Posted 14 February 2003 - 03:03 AM

I did a lot of looking at Escher''s art before I began. His impossible shape paintings/drawings/etc are awesome. If I had the art skills, I might do something like that. Unfortunately, I don''t. Also, I think that would be going a little overboard as I just want a text logo and not a full blown painting.

I improved 6 a little (imo) and you can see 7 at http://art.psychosanity.com/crazy7.jpg. I''m really starting to like it - It''s now my desktop (the full image has more to the top and bottom, but its more of the same so it really doesn''t make much difference to the feel of the image. Since I want to save bandwidth I cropped them to just around the text).

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Posted 14 February 2003 - 03:28 AM

Nice, I like the flipped A, pretty H4x0r

- Get rid of the background, too busy.
- Make the letters less aligned.
- Make each letter a different colors.
- Try a motion blur
- Add some blood dripping of from the letters.
- Make the sides of the letter sharp, like a knife.
- Stretch the corners of the letters to give them an overall disorder.
- Put in a underwater effect to make it more liquid.



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Posted 14 February 2003 - 03:34 AM

and for gods sake, go to flashkit.com and download a new font.
there is NOTHING crazy about arial
heheh

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Posted 14 February 2003 - 03:43 AM

quote:
Original post by machuidel
[...]
- Get rid of the background, too busy.
- Make the letters less aligned.
- Make each letter a different colors.
- Try a motion blur
- Add some blood dripping of from the letters.
- Make the sides of the letter sharp, like a knife.
- Stretch the corners of the letters to give them an overall disorder.
- Put in a underwater effect to make it more liquid.



The background is supposed to be busy, as I feel that it helps represent insanity (not sure how to explain why).
I like the letters being aligned and them being basically the same color because it offsets the noise found everywhere else in the image and it shows the order in the chaos.
There is already a lot of motion blur and several layers with a ripple distortion =-)
Also, the ''rain'' effect was originally red, but I like it better the way it is now as a difference filter with the ''splashes'' being blue/green.
I''ll have to mess around with your letter suggestions to see what they look like =-)

quote:
Original post by eldee
and for gods sake, go to flashkit.com and download a new font.
there is NOTHING crazy about arial
heheh[...]


The insanity in arial is that it is normal. Only through insanity could a suboptimal standard be chosen =-P
Have any suggestions? I don''t feel like goung through every font and redoing all the 100000 filters I''ve done on the letters to see if it looks good, but if you have some specific fonts (or styles of font etc) in mind, I might try them out =-)


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Posted 14 February 2003 - 06:05 AM

Ummm..... I like the wording but I agree that the background has to go. It doesn''t look ensane.. it looks like tiedie... maybe a logo for woodstock 2003?

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