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I have grown to dislike the rating system. More often than not I see people being downrated for no more reason than simply not having the same point of view as person B. I have also seen people shut up from further discussion because they fear they will be downrated for having a different opinion on a subject. Many of these people are behaving nicely, not being offensive etc... and still they get downrated for being "unhelpful".
I am sorry but this system really doesn't work. Most don't get "uprates" when they are "being helpful" either. People are more quick to downrate than uprate and *that* good sirs simply won't do.
The purpose was (as I understood it) to get a general sense of helpfullness and appreciation within the community, but when people start shutting up the system is working against the community. I strongly urge you to either scrap the rating system or improve it from being abused like now. I suggest that people who donate to this site, have the option of not being rated (i.e having "No rating" where the rating usually is)
Feel free to bash me but this is how I feel about it and I am sure that I am not alone but someone have to say something.
Regards
Mike
Individual ratings don't really matter. Even the highest-rated users here can't do more than 30 points of damage or so (even if they roll a critical hit!). And the overall trends on a particular user do seem to track how helpful they are. If you have an example of a user who was courteous, helpful, and thoughtful, and whose rating was nonetheless shot to hell, please tell.
I agree with MichaelT, it's not even remotely useful. It encourages anonymous posting and serves no other purpose than turning the site into a popularity contest, with --rating for difference of opinions and other lame reasons.
AAAAAh! Troll Staff Award 2005!
You can say anything about ratings, but I agree that it has been forcing people to not speak from their hearts.
Pro:
-people actually THINK before they post, now.
Con:
-people who are lazy will simply not post.
-people who DO post, but don't formulate it (politically) correctly will suffer the loss of rating.
So I really like people like Rob Loach who do formulate their opinions the correct way. But too bad, I am not a person like him.
You can say anything about ratings, but I agree that it has been forcing people to not speak from their hearts.
Pro:
-people actually THINK before they post, now.
Con:
-people who are lazy will simply not post.
-people who DO post, but don't formulate it (politically) correctly will suffer the loss of rating.
So I really like people like Rob Loach who do formulate their opinions the correct way. But too bad, I am not a person like him.
"Hmm looks like we've got another crackpot..."
Hmm I do like the suggestion of a "no rating" option though
As far as the affects it has on people: The only real thing I've noticed is this bizarre case of paranoia emerging in people
If your rating is making you paranoid & it really bothers you that much that leaves 1 of 2 possible causes:
1] You. Maybe you are just being paranoid
2] Everyone else is making your paranoid. It's there fault not yours. THE WORLD IS AGAINST YOU!
There will always be people trying to lift themselves up above others & caring about some fictional popularity comfort layer
So what?
Why does this bother you? That's life man!
If you believe your rating isn't an accurate representation of yourself, or your friendliness, or whatever & has no real worth, then why are you so bothered about it?
I mean you're complaining about other people being over-obsessed with ratings... yet this seems to be the very thing you are obsessed with
SO WHAT?!
It doesn't blummin matter man!
It's just a website - a minuete speck on the spectrum of your life
Get over it & shut up
If I were like you I'd probally be making threads about how the ratings suck coz they encourage everyone to moan. But instead I'm gonna let it out in this reply then forget about it & GET ON WITH MY LIFE
Hmm I do like the suggestion of a "no rating" option though
As far as the affects it has on people: The only real thing I've noticed is this bizarre case of paranoia emerging in people
If your rating is making you paranoid & it really bothers you that much that leaves 1 of 2 possible causes:
1] You. Maybe you are just being paranoid
2] Everyone else is making your paranoid. It's there fault not yours. THE WORLD IS AGAINST YOU!
There will always be people trying to lift themselves up above others & caring about some fictional popularity comfort layer
So what?
Why does this bother you? That's life man!
If you believe your rating isn't an accurate representation of yourself, or your friendliness, or whatever & has no real worth, then why are you so bothered about it?
I mean you're complaining about other people being over-obsessed with ratings... yet this seems to be the very thing you are obsessed with
SO WHAT?!
It doesn't blummin matter man!
It's just a website - a minuete speck on the spectrum of your life
Get over it & shut up
If I were like you I'd probally be making threads about how the ratings suck coz they encourage everyone to moan. But instead I'm gonna let it out in this reply then forget about it & GET ON WITH MY LIFE
Maybe change the rating system system so it's assessed per post. That way you'd only rate someone down if multiple people rated down a particular post. That would get rid of these oddball downgrades for people speaking their mind.
What I find is upsetting is that people seem to get downgraded when they ask a question. What seems obvious to you, might not be obvious to other people. I always find it interesting when I see that it's someones first and only post and somehow they have a 950 > rating. I understand that there are a lot of idiots that should be consulting google first, but rating down should be reserved to fighting trolls rather then eradicating the newbie population.
What I find is upsetting is that people seem to get downgraded when they ask a question. What seems obvious to you, might not be obvious to other people. I always find it interesting when I see that it's someones first and only post and somehow they have a 950 > rating. I understand that there are a lot of idiots that should be consulting google first, but rating down should be reserved to fighting trolls rather then eradicating the newbie population.
Or as has been said for a while, change it to some text banner so that tiny fluctuations aren't noticed.
I have noticed how people with high ratings like 1400+, actually get rated up constantly, regardless of what they post.
ace
ace
After the rating system was instituted, my rating rose from the moderator base of 1500 to about 1779. Then there was the Rob Loach Incident™, and it plunged, hard. Subsequently, it has risen slowly as the anger over that event subsided - and I spent quality time assisting beginners and so forth.
In short, from my perspective, the rating system works. My suspicion is that complaints about the system that call for its abolition are rooted in their own discursive inadequacies. Yes, there is some measure of ratings abuse, just as there is some measure of a clique/cabal mentality. Then again, there's some measure of PM abuse, forum abuse, and abuse of any and every public resource/facility anywhere, ever.
Further, the vast majority of people overestimate their own articulation, particularly when critical of an infrastructure. Considered in concert with the fact that the origin of ratings fluctuations is not immediately apparent (ie, it may not stem from that unpopular post you made in Graphics Theory, but rather the fact that you're a general douchebag), these people indict the system for flaws that lie within.
In closing, I share my mantra on relating to a collective: "Look first within." If there's a problem or incompatibility of any sort, look first within to see whether you are the problem.
Happy hacking!
In short, from my perspective, the rating system works. My suspicion is that complaints about the system that call for its abolition are rooted in their own discursive inadequacies. Yes, there is some measure of ratings abuse, just as there is some measure of a clique/cabal mentality. Then again, there's some measure of PM abuse, forum abuse, and abuse of any and every public resource/facility anywhere, ever.
Further, the vast majority of people overestimate their own articulation, particularly when critical of an infrastructure. Considered in concert with the fact that the origin of ratings fluctuations is not immediately apparent (ie, it may not stem from that unpopular post you made in Graphics Theory, but rather the fact that you're a general douchebag), these people indict the system for flaws that lie within.
In closing, I share my mantra on relating to a collective: "Look first within." If there's a problem or incompatibility of any sort, look first within to see whether you are the problem.
Happy hacking!
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