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[java] Is there a free jave ide?


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#1 jeffakew   Members   -  Reputation: 122

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Posted 13 December 2000 - 09:06 AM

Hello, I''m looking for a free jave ide (intergrated development enviroment- I think). Preferebaly I would like to be really small file download and require a powerful system. Its just that its such a hassle to run stuff from the comand line. Thanks alot.

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#2 acraig   Members   -  Reputation: 471

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Posted 13 December 2000 - 09:39 AM

Borland''s JBuilder is pretty good. It''s not super fast but the overall IDE is pretty good. It has function/variable completion and other stuff like that.

I don''t think that it''s a small download though . 45M I think. I like my cable modem

Textpad also has the abiltiy to compile Java programs so it''s not really an IDE but its easier then typing stuff in the command line.



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#3 saisoft   Members   -  Reputation: 122

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Posted 13 December 2000 - 09:54 AM

Forte, from www.forte.com(i think this is right) is free, one of the versions.

#4 latrobe   Members   -  Reputation: 122

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Posted 13 December 2000 - 12:02 PM

Another free one that is fairly useful is JCreator - found at www.jcreator.com

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Posted 14 December 2000 - 05:00 AM

If you are just starting w/ java you could try the evaluation version of CodeGuide, www.omnicore.com. It reports errors as you type them, making it a valuable tool for beginners.


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Posted 14 December 2000 - 08:21 AM

Emacs No, seriously, I think Code Crusader will be happy to handle .java files. I think it''s linux (or unix) only though, not sure...

#7 AntonyHirst   Members   -  Reputation: 122

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Posted 14 December 2000 - 12:30 PM

The open source Netbeans (based on Sun''s Forte for Java) is my favourite for its combination of features, speed and extensibility. beware of some builds they can be a bit dodgy so go for version 3.0 or 3.1 Beta.

www.netbeans.org. Use with CVS (www.cvshome.org) for version control. Fab!

#8 AntonyHirst   Members   -  Reputation: 122

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Posted 14 December 2000 - 12:30 PM

The open source Netbeans (based on Sun''s Forte for Java) is my favourite for its combination of features, speed and extensibility. beware of some builds they can be a bit dodgy so go for version 3.0 or 3.1 Beta.

www.netbeans.org. Use with CVS (www.cvshome.org) for version control. Fab!

#9 qurob   Members   -  Reputation: 122

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Posted 14 December 2000 - 03:33 PM



I would recommend staying away from the suckfests that are Forte and JBuilder. Memory hogs, and slower than all hell. I''m sure if you are using Java to do enterprise apps or something fancy, they''d come in handy. Overkill for simple games and just plain playing with Java. I''m happy with Notepad/Edit and a console window. or PICO under linux...


The reason those are so bad is the fact that they are made in Java. Sure, they can run on any platform that runs Java, but yuck. When you are on Windows, why not use a small, fast IDE? Well, I know of at least one way to do this.


RealJ


Quick, fast, Win32....I used it for a bit to do some Java, but never really got too deep in to it. But it''s nice!




#10 rockslave   Members   -  Reputation: 122

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Posted 15 December 2000 - 05:19 AM

Notepad is all right. Hehe. Really, look for WinEdit, mail info@windowware.com

Thanks, Arthur(rockslave)

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Posted 15 December 2000 - 05:28 AM

I''ma big fan of UltraEdit when it comes to all kinds of plaintext editing.

www.ultraedit.com

#12 c_wraith   Members   -  Reputation: 122

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Posted 15 December 2000 - 09:59 AM

I find calling many of those IDE's is misleading... A lot of them are just glorified text editors. When I think "IDE" I think of integrated debugging, in addition to the other standard features. And of the ones listed, JBuilder, NetBeans, and Forte For Java are teh only ones with integrated debugging.

I've been using NetBeans since the post about it was made yesterday, and I find it faster than FFJ. It's also a much smaller download than JBuilder. The one thing I don't like about it is that it doesn't allow running search-and-replace on only the selected text, which I find VERY strange. Other than that, it's a great IDE.

Edit - CodeGuide might offer integrated debugging (I haven't checked), but I dislike using evaluation versions of software. However, it's worth looking into.

Edited by - c_wraith on December 15, 2000 5:02:08 PM

#13 buh   Members   -  Reputation: 122

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Posted 15 December 2000 - 02:03 PM

Anyone try the new version of Forte? Any performance improvements? I liked it but I can''t stand the sound of my hard drive grinding endlessly.

#14 qurob   Members   -  Reputation: 122

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Posted 15 December 2000 - 03:31 PM

Hard drive crunch is because those Java IDE''s need 128 MB to run at a decent rate. All you need is a simple text editor with the ability to execute your compiler and such. WinEdit is configurable to do that, so it''s great. For DOS users you can even go old-school and use BOXER (Newbies say what?)


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Posted 15 December 2000 - 08:08 PM

I can''t see why anyone would recommend a text editor. Generally the people asking these questions aren''t master programmers. An IDE is easy to use, to setup and it helps you read your program by coloring syntax. Supposedly all these fancy text editors can do all that too, but I bet you have to set it up to do so, or something like that. It''s not free and it''s probably not the best but I use CodeWarrior, something edition. It costs $50 and does java, C, and C++. It saves a lot of time, is stable, ran fine on my old p200 w/ 32 RAM, and it doesn''t take that much skill to setup.

#16 qurob   Members   -  Reputation: 122

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Posted 17 December 2000 - 10:10 AM

Well, Codewarrior is a Win32 or Mac based app, not some Java bloated and slow overkill of an IDE, so it wouldn''t be that bad.


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Posted 17 December 2000 - 01:43 PM

I recommend the week-long learning curve (relative to me of course ) of learning e-macs (versions for Windows and most flavors of Unix). The JDE extension creates a pretty good IDE (sans code completion) even with a built-in debugger! This is the package that I''ll probably use for my Java development for a long time. If you dig syntax highlighting and all that this has it. And the thing that I love about emacs is the fact that you don''t have to reach for the arrow keys like you have to in all windows editors I have used.



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#18 Mornelithe   Members   -  Reputation: 122

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Posted 17 December 2000 - 03:50 PM

I''m a big fan of jEdit

It''s a text editor written in Java with a plugin architecture that makes it really extensible. People have written all kinds of great plugins, like a plugin that compiles Java files with a menu command/toolbar button/key combination. It also has syntax highlighting for lots of types of files. I could go on, but it''s probably easier to go look at the site (jedit.sourceforge.net if it didn''t do the link properly earlier).

Hope this helps some.

#19 felonius   Members   -  Reputation: 122

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Posted 17 December 2000 - 10:15 PM

Although not free,
I am in favor of Visual Cafe (www.webgain.com). It does hava a trial edition, but most importantly it can it all and is fast! Only set back is that it does not support Java 1.3, though.

Jacob Marner

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Posted 22 December 2000 - 12:26 AM

WinEdit has a built-in compiler and interpreter. It can also change the colors of reserved words so you can have a clearer view of your algorithm

Thanks, Arthur(rockslave)




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