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#21 Vopisk   Members   -  Reputation: 144

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Posted 24 January 2006 - 03:04 PM

See, that makes sense now. Although I think I'll pass on a taste-test :D

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Posted 24 January 2006 - 09:58 PM

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There is so much you haven't thought about man:

-> The Car. Every pimp needs a car. Without his car, the pimp is nothing. The car is his status symbol, it shows who he is and it is his most important weapon in impressing the ladies. Therefore, make sure there are plenty of upgrades for your car. Watch MTV's Gonna Pimp Your Ride with Xzibit for ideas.

-> The Clothes. Whats a pimp without an afro? Pimps need to spend serious money getting their rocks and suits right. Fur coats, hats ... it's almost as essential as the rims.

-> Crack? You're whack! Crack is an infection in the hood, pimps avoid it like vampires avoid daylight. Cocaine on the other hand, that's a whole different thing.

-> Violence. The way your game is lookin' right now, it seems like it doesn't have enough violence. The type of audience this game is geared toward is not going to settle for a bitch choke as sufficient violence. Nah, you're going to have to graphically depict the explicit torture of snitchers, the gang bang firefights and drivebys and whenever you shoot a police make sure you go into slow motion. So you can really see his pig skull fly into pieces.

Peace,

Madvillain


No I didn't forget these parts, I just didn't go into every detail of the game. Here is a rundown:

Pimp Car: Allows you to move through the city grid faster. Provides you with increased movement speed, better chance to convert women to whores, and gives you extra armor. Penalty: Cost and higher visibility to The Man

Pimp Hat: Increases whore revenue and again increases chance to convert whores. Penalty: Higher visibility to The Man

About the violence and crack. Whores have stats such as beauty and crack in bloodstream. After a whore's crack in bloodstream stat reaches a certain point, she begins to have a chance to become a crack whore. The point at which this chance starts is lowered with promixity to other crack whores. Crack whores make MUCH less money and decrease their beauty score.

The choke bitch command gives you money and reduces a whore's crack in bloodstream stat. When you select choke bitch, it brings up a hud where you pound alternating buttons as fast as possible while the hud dislays a close up of the choking action and the whores vital meters.

You can kill a whore if you want, but that again raises your visibiity to The Man.

As a balance factor, generally speaking, the better you are doing in the game the more The Man will harrass you. This gives players that are behind the chance to comeback.

Of course there is all sorts of other violence in the game, and it is open ended, so if you want you can just go on carnage rampages, though unless your rampages are mission related, you really wont see any bonuses.

With regard to play style, each pimp type you select at the begining of the game has a different play style. For example, the French Bordello Madam can more easily convert women, and with very little money, but she doesn't receive the same type of crack bonuses as say the Gold Plated Nigger pimp. Also, her whores tend to go inside buildings and are not prone to getting picked up on the street by The Man.

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Posted 24 January 2006 - 10:23 PM

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While we're on the topic of depicting violence, perhaps we can schedule drive-bys and have the camera go into a FPS mode where the pimp sitting in the back seat fires his AK/Uzi into a house full of unsuspecting whores, gangbangers, enemy pimps and to boot, innocent women and children, cause no drive-by's complete without innocent by-standers.

You also had a good point with the cocaine thing, but crack is essential because it gets your whores and clients high without costing you a lot out of pocket, but personal preference would be just as you said.

Maybe to boot, you could staple drug wars right on top of this to complete the whole deal, why just pimp out your whores when you can do that AND run a succesful drug-ring? I think it was touched upon with the whole, crack to schoolkids idea, but it needs to be more, we need more depravity, more immorality, before this PC world oppresses us into acts of open rebellion!

As far as cars go, I'm most certainly thinking that HUGE, convertible cadillacs would be an absolute must, painted bright colors, and don't forget the datons(sp?, spoke wheels with little razor looking things inside), plush/velvet interior and to top it off, pink fuzzy dice in the window.

A whole extra aspect of gameplay could be just driving around town in your pimp mobile, which, when you honk the horn goes, "Move bitch! Get out the way!". Kinda like what Mafia did with their free-play driving.

Anyway, those are my ideas and my two cents, something to chew on,


All good ideas. I appreciate them. Thanks.

The game is meant to be a top down type display like an typical RTS game. There would be character and item portaits that display in the game HUD, as well as a lot of popup HUDs decorated with pimped out gfx and in cases showing a closeup high polygon render of some game related action.

There would definitely be a whole lot of styles and voices and sound effects that set the mood based of pimp type, city tileset, and character/item selection.

The style could best be described as being from the a viewpoint of an ultra racist/sexist 14 year old boy lampooning everything, but at the same time presenting itself as if it were absolutely serious. Think of Eric Cartman with the volume turned way up, and a stream of obscenities and racial/sexist epitaphs.

Gameplay is centered around building your pimp empire versus other pimps scattered throughout the city, though it can also be open ended. You could for example forego game missions and building a respectable stable, to instead cruise around the city and interact the encironment, NPC characters, or other pimps.

Of course the disadvantage to this is that if your are busted by The Man or get a capin your ass, you will have little or no assets to get bailed out. It may be possible though to travel around the city making contacts and exploring for the best locations to setup shop, acquire critical inventory items, or influence the right NPCs early on.

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Posted 24 January 2006 - 11:07 PM

Hrm...

I'm surprised no one's mentioned this yet, but there was a game called "Virtual Pimp" written in the mid to late 90's in both QBasic, and for TI graphing calculators.

Virtual Pimp

#25 sysrpn   Members   -  Reputation: 100

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Posted 25 January 2006 - 01:00 AM

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Hrm...

I'm surprised no one's mentioned this yet, but there was a game called "Virtual Pimp" written in the mid to late 90's in both QBasic, and for TI graphing calculators.

Virtual Pimp


This is a complete rewrite.

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Posted 25 January 2006 - 02:35 AM

I have absolutely nothing to contribute to this thread, except:
a) this has to be the most entertaining post I've ever read on Gamedev
b) I would pay money for a copy of this game upon its release!


#27 _winterdyne_   Members   -  Reputation: 529

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Posted 25 January 2006 - 03:03 AM

My girlfriend had a fit (in a good way) when we saw 'Pimp Tycoon' on kazaa once, many moons ago... we downloaded having never heard of it elsewhere. She was gutted when it turned out to be Sim Golf. The description was almost the same as this thread. You now must do this game. You have a mission. Do it.

I think part of the description went:

'Take your ho's from the humble beginnings behind a dumpster at the back of McD's to penthouse celebrity whoredom... hook 'em on crack and keep 'em dry to get them in line!'

Will you have dumpsters?


#28 The C modest god   Banned   -  Reputation: 100

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Posted 25 January 2006 - 03:04 AM

At first I thought this was a joke, and laughted from the game description.
But now I see he might have been serious.
This game is retarded.
Why can't you just watch south park to satisfy your culture rebelling needs and then go back to your daily job or school and to your conformist life in which you never broke the law even once?
You really think that in real life one person is involved in all the levels of activity?
The big boss never really deals with all the low levels working people like whores and drug dealers, because he dosent want to be linked to them when the police decides to do something about his buissenes.
Usaly there is one pimp for a dozen of whores and thats all, and there is no much action or intersting things going on a pimp's life.

I know you are all joking, but can't people do more positive things with their time then working on projects that are fun for some people just like some people like to watch videos of people eating their own crap?

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Posted 25 January 2006 - 03:12 AM

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... can't people do more positive things with their time ...

I was actually thinking the same thing while reading your post. [smile]
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Posted 25 January 2006 - 03:45 AM

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At first I thought this was a joke, and laughted from the game description.
But now I see he might have been serious.
This game is retarded.
Why can't you just watch south park to satisfy your culture rebelling needs and then go back to your daily job or school and to your conformist life in which you never broke the law even once?
You really think that in real life one person is involved in all the levels of activity?
The big boss never really deals with all the low levels working people like whores and drug dealers, because he dosent want to be linked to them when the police decides to do something about his buissenes.
Usaly there is one pimp for a dozen of whores and thats all, and there is no much action or intersting things going on a pimp's life.

I know you are all joking, but can't people do more positive things with their time then working on projects that are fun for some people just like some people like to watch videos of people eating their own crap?

I dont get you. Are you one of these people that is easily offended? Do you want to ban games like GTA and abhor violence in video games? Why are you even on this forum?

With respect to complaints about the inner workings of real life pimps, I find it ironic that given your admitted distaste for vulgarity you claim intimate knowledge on the subject.

For your information Virtual Pimp will be a pimp SIMULATOR and I assure you pimps do deal drugs. Living in south Florida all our lives, its safe to say that we know better than your ilk.

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Posted 25 January 2006 - 03:58 AM

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At first I thought this was a joke, and laughted from the game description.
But now I see he might have been serious.
This game is retarded.
Why can't you just watch south park to satisfy your culture rebelling needs and then go back to your daily job or school and to your conformist life in which you never broke the law even once?
You really think that in real life one person is involved in all the levels of activity?
The big boss never really deals with all the low levels working people like whores and drug dealers, because he dosent want to be linked to them when the police decides to do something about his buissenes.
Usaly there is one pimp for a dozen of whores and thats all, and there is no much action or intersting things going on a pimp's life.

I know you are all joking, but can't people do more positive things with their time then working on projects that are fun for some people just like some people like to watch videos of people eating their own crap?

I dont get you. Are you one of these people that is easily offended? Do you want to ban games like GTA and abhor violence in video games? Why are you even on this forum?

With respect to complaints about the inner workings of real life pimps, I find it ironic that given your admitted distaste for vulgarity you claim intimate knowledge on the subject.

For your information Virtual Pimp will be a pimp SIMULATOR and I assure you pimps do deal drugs. Living in south Florida all our lives, its safe to say that we know better than your ilk.

Why won't you make a game about being a raper?
Would it be OK with you if your sister or your mother was a whore?
Did you ever used drugs?
Maybe pimps also deal drugs, but they are not the people in charge of things.
They are operated by higher ranks people.
Your game is just like of a child's concept of how exciting is the criminal world.




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Posted 25 January 2006 - 04:15 AM

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Why won't you make a game about being a raper?


You can recruit gangs that will rape the other players whores, so we already have that base covered, and by the way, the correct term is rapist.

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Would it be OK with you if your sister or your mother was a whore?


Whatever someone want to do with their life is their own choice. If it upsets you than someone wants to be a whore, or do drugs, or commit suicide, its their decision.

Take a look at yourself and fix your own problems.

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Did you ever used drugs?


Without getting into it, yes.

Do everyone a favor, and if you don't have anything constructive to add to this discussion, close your browser, go back to reading your bible, take solice in believing that us heathen will burn in hell, and go away.

For everyone else reading this, I apologize for this jerk, but his reaction tells me that game concept is already a real winner. After the game mechanics are ironed out we will be looking for mission suggestions, so keep your comments comming.

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Posted 25 January 2006 - 04:32 AM

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Why won't you make a game about being a raper?


You can recruit gangs that will rape the other players whores, so we already have that base covered, and by the way, the correct term is rapist.

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Would it be OK with you if your sister or your mother was a whore?


Whatever someone want to do with their life is their own choice. If it upsets you than someone wants to be a whore, or do drugs, or commit suicide, its their decision.

Take a look at yourself and fix your own problems.

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Did you ever used drugs?


Without getting into it, yes.

Do everyone a favor, and if you don't have anything constructive to add to this discussion, close your browser, go back to reading your bible, take solice in believing that us heathen will burn in hell, and go away.

For everyone else reading this, I apologize for this jerk, but his reaction tells me that game concept is already a real winner. After the game mechanics are ironed out we will be looking for mission suggestions, so keep your comments comming.

Why raping only whores? why not raping little children and elderly too?
Whats the point on raping whores?
Beside trying to make an anti social game, there is nothing in the gameplay which is actually fun or innovative.
If you male this game you sure will get attention.
But there is a way to get attention.
Somone once said:
"If you will fart in an elevator full of people, they are all going to remember you.
But they will remember that you are a stinking farter"
Excuse me if farter is not the correct word to use here, but you get the point.
By the way, when a pimp forces you to work as a whore its not "doing with their life whatever they want"

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Posted 25 January 2006 - 05:21 AM

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Why raping only whores? why not raping little children and elderly too? Whats the point on raping whores?

Raping whores lowers their stats and empties their cash giving to the opposing player.

Babies in the game serve no point unless they are crack babies. Massing crack babies unlocks powers like crack army.

Children are recruited into gangs. There is no point in raping them, though if you want it could be added as a game feature but it wouldn't have any effect on gameplay.

In Virtual Pimp there are no eldery people because after the age of fifty five they become a burden on society and are killed.

[Edited by - sysrpn on January 25, 2006 11:21:14 AM]

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Posted 25 January 2006 - 05:22 AM

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My girlfriend had a fit (in a good way) when we saw 'Pimp Tycoon' on kazaa once, many moons ago... we downloaded having never heard of it elsewhere. She was gutted when it turned out to be Sim Golf. The description was almost the same as this thread. You now must do this game. You have a mission. Do it.

I think part of the description went:

'Take your ho's from the humble beginnings behind a dumpster at the back of McD's to penthouse celebrity whoredom... hook 'em on crack and keep 'em dry to get them in line!'

Will you have dumpsters?

Thats a really good idea. Perhaps around the back of some buildings there will be dumpsters you can throw food into. Later this would attract homeless people from which you could recruit runaway girls. This would be fixed location for low cost whores with a high degree of loyalty.

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Posted 25 January 2006 - 05:48 AM

I just sprayed coke all over my keyboard. Thanks. ;-)


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Posted 25 January 2006 - 06:41 AM

Well, good luck with your game.
I am sure a lot of people would like to play a game where you get points for raping runaway girls because they were hungry for food and went to a dumpster where you have put food.
You can also have the pimps make white films about raping babies and murdering people.
It is more likely the people that will be willing to play your game are also consumers of real white movies, so it would be wise to add this feature as well.

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Posted 25 January 2006 - 07:00 AM

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Well, good luck with your game.
I am sure a lot of people would like to play a game where you get points for raping runaway girls because they were hungry for food and went to a dumpster where you have put food.
You can also have the pimps make white films about raping babies and murdering people.
It is more likely the people that will be willing to play your game are also consumers of real white movies, so it would be wise to add this feature as well.


What exactly is a 'white movie'?

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Posted 25 January 2006 - 08:43 AM

I would play this game, why? because it sounds like something different. I play games because they are fun, and often have things you don't do in real life.

Would you like to play a game where you lift heavy boxes off one converoy belt, and put them on another, for 8 hours a day? How about a game where you get to try and keep your stress level low enough that you don't snap when you get little old granny calling for the tenth time because she doesn't know what you mean when you say three pronged outlet?

If a game like this offends you, DON"T BUY IT! Kids that use these as "training" are already fucked up enough to not be able to tell the difference between a game and real life, and are a problem already. Should 10 year olds be playing this? Hell no. I know some 20 year olds that shouldn't be allowed to touch a game like this.

The game sounds interesting, and a little different, and I want to know how it turns out.

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Posted 25 January 2006 - 09:37 AM

I only have this to add:

Bite my shiney metal pimpmobile.




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