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Posted 22 June 2001 - 03:13 PM

I''m looking for some good texts on math and physics and couldn''t find any recomendations at the books section of gamedev. I have just a basic knowldege of algebra (high school). I just want to learn the stuff specific to game programming in general any help would be greatly appreciated.

Posted 22 June 2001 - 07:19 PM

i''d suggest going to a university library and looking up titles that resemble "mathematical methods for physicists" and "introduction to linear algebra". then pick out the relevant material that you''re interested in. i like the math methods book by mary boas. my linear book was by david c. lay.

Posted 26 June 2001 - 06:09 AM

With just a basic knowledge of algebra, you may want to start with basic physics, and at the same time start learning a bit about linear algebra before you move on to more advanced physics.

I would recommend the following as a good basic physics text: "Fundamentals of Physics" by Haliday and Resnick. Its a Freshman college level physics book. Some of the things in there, such as projectile motion, are applicable to games. Plus, they cover conservation of linear momentum which is the basis for collision response. Good stuff and more suited to someone with your current math background.

I do have a good beginners book for linear algebra, unfortunately its at home right now and I don''t recall the author or title. This web page does list a few recommendations, but I can''t personally recommend these since I have not seen them:

http://forum.swarthmore.edu/linear/choosing.texts/rec.texts.html

Graham Rhodes

Senior Scientist

Applied Research Associates, Inc.

I would recommend the following as a good basic physics text: "Fundamentals of Physics" by Haliday and Resnick. Its a Freshman college level physics book. Some of the things in there, such as projectile motion, are applicable to games. Plus, they cover conservation of linear momentum which is the basis for collision response. Good stuff and more suited to someone with your current math background.

I do have a good beginners book for linear algebra, unfortunately its at home right now and I don''t recall the author or title. This web page does list a few recommendations, but I can''t personally recommend these since I have not seen them:

http://forum.swarthmore.edu/linear/choosing.texts/rec.texts.html

Graham Rhodes

Senior Scientist

Applied Research Associates, Inc.

Posted 26 June 2001 - 10:03 AM

"Mathematics for Computer Graphics Applications" is a very good book. Covers a lot of the maths needed for computer graphics, and in simple terms too, so you can understand easier. The Author is: M.E Mortenson

IBSN #: 0-8311-3111-X

IBSN #: 0-8311-3111-X

Posted 26 June 2001 - 10:43 AM

I''ll add whatever highly recommended books come up in this thread, so keep the suggestions coming.

Posted 26 June 2001 - 11:14 AM

Okay, I''m trying to add the physics book Graham mentioned, and I''m not sure which version to add. The problem I''m running into is that on Amazon, Fatbrain, and even the publisher''s site, there are several different versions of the 6th edition, and none of these sources is clear at all about what the differences are. It seems like there are 2 or 3 ways to get it: as a single 1200 page, $120 book (the Extended version), as a two volume set, or as a three part set (I may be wrong about there being a two volume option). Graham (or anyone), which versions are you familiar with, and which would you recommend to our audience? I have the 5th edition, 2 volume set myself, and if memory serves, the first volume would be far more useful than the second to game developers. I''m guessing the same is probably true for the 6th edition as well.

Posted 26 June 2001 - 02:28 PM

Hi,

Doesn''t Resnick and Haliday have two parts - Part-1 and Part-2, because I have 2 parts of the book, ofcourse a very old edition.

By the way a very good book.

Doesn''t Resnick and Haliday have two parts - Part-1 and Part-2, because I have 2 parts of the book, ofcourse a very old edition.

By the way a very good book.

Posted 26 June 2001 - 08:42 PM

That''s it, remind me of just how old I am. I have a copy of Halliday & Resnick that''s a single volume (and yes I think its also a 1st edition). 8^( Sheesh, where did I leave that walking stick???

A good introduction to the sorts of mathematical tools you will need can be found in the following two volumes

"Calculus" by James Stewart. Brooks/Cole Publishing Company

ISBN 0 534-21798-2

and the associated volume

"Linear Algebra for Calculus" by Heuvers, Kuisti, Francis, Ortner, Moak & Lockhart. Brooks/Cole Publishing Company

ISBN 0-534-15402-6

Halliday & Resnick is an excellent text on introductory physics and I would recommend it.

Tim

A good introduction to the sorts of mathematical tools you will need can be found in the following two volumes

"Calculus" by James Stewart. Brooks/Cole Publishing Company

ISBN 0 534-21798-2

and the associated volume

"Linear Algebra for Calculus" by Heuvers, Kuisti, Francis, Ortner, Moak & Lockhart. Brooks/Cole Publishing Company

ISBN 0-534-15402-6

Halliday & Resnick is an excellent text on introductory physics and I would recommend it.

Tim

Posted 27 June 2001 - 02:32 PM

H&R is pretty dry no matter which volume you get.

much more readable is "physics" by hans c. ohanian.

of course, if you''re actually genuinely interested in

phyics, the feynman lecures on physics are a must-read.

much more readable is "physics" by hans c. ohanian.

of course, if you''re actually genuinely interested in

phyics, the feynman lecures on physics are a must-read.

Posted 28 June 2001 - 07:27 AM

Haliday and Resnick is available as separate parts 1 and 2, *or* as a combined book with both parts. The one I had in mind was part 1. Given the price, I highly recommend seeking out a used copy, which shouldn''t be too hard (in the USA at least) given that its a very popular book for introductory physics.

I agree with jmg3 that H&R is dry. But I do think that folks with just basic math skills could be more successful programming simple physics based on introductory physics than jumping right into something more complex.

Graham Rhodes

Senior Scientist

Applied Research Associates, Inc.

I agree with jmg3 that H&R is dry. But I do think that folks with just basic math skills could be more successful programming simple physics based on introductory physics than jumping right into something more complex.

Graham Rhodes

Senior Scientist

Applied Research Associates, Inc.