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#1 akudoi   Members   -  Reputation: 122

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Posted 07 July 2001 - 02:05 PM

Just wondering if anyone has used opengl on laptops? im planing on buying a laptop in the next month or so. Im hoping ill be able to continue programming with opengl on it the same way i do on my desktop. Anyones help would be great! I dont wanna buy a new laptop and find out it sucks, and be out lots of $$ the most common card in laptops ive seen are ATI Mobility M1 8MB [compaq] Dedicated SGRAM 8MB [hp] ATI Rage Mobility 8MB [sony] S3 Savage Graphic Chip 8MB [sony] ive seen one with 16MB but the name wasnt familiar, i cant remember which one even. thanks for the help.

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Posted 07 July 2001 - 02:10 PM

The ATI and S3 chips can run OpenGL. They might be a bit slow, but they''re certainly usable. Alternately, you could get a laptop with a GeForce 2 GO.

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Posted 07 July 2001 - 04:46 PM

Most laptops or atleast the ones that I''ve seen in Best Buy, CompUSA, Circut City, etc. have little or no video card. I''ve been wanting to get one but the only one that I''ve found with the features I want cost an arm and two legs to get. MOst laptops don''t offer the same power as a Desktop but they get the job done though.

These are the one that I''ve been thinking about.

The Dell Inspiron 8000
32MB DDR NVIDIA GeForce2 Go 3D Video 4X AGP or 16MB ATI Rage Mobility M4 3D 4X AGP
$1500-2000+

The Compaq Presario 1800T-900
16MB ATI Rage Mobility M4 3D 4X AGP
$1800+

As many have found by build a custom computer or by buying an one of those super computers you run in to problems, but that can happen with any computer. It''s best to stay with the well known computer companies for example: Dell, Compaq, HP, etc. You can choose the lesser known ones because they may charge less but there Technical support or whatever may not be as good.

Word of advice make a Pros and Cons sheet or a Comparison Chart for the computers and video cards your looking for ,and then go from there.

With a little patience you''ll soon see those laptops pick up in speed the only prob. here is that he price will proboly rise too.

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Posted 08 July 2001 - 03:12 PM

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Original post by Anonymous Poster
Most laptops or atleast the ones that I've seen in Best Buy, CompUSA, Circut City, etc. have little or no video card. I've been wanting to get one but the only one that I've found with the features I want cost an arm and two legs to get. MOst laptops don't offer the same power as a Desktop but they get the job done though.


First, your looking in the wrong place. Check Dell.com and sony.com for some decent laptops. 2nd, all laptops have video cards or else nothing would show up on the screen =)

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These are the one that I've been thinking about.

The Dell Inspiron 8000
32MB DDR NVIDIA GeForce2 Go 3D Video 4X AGP or 16MB ATI Rage Mobility M4 3D 4X AGP
$1500-2000+

The Compaq Presario 1800T-900
16MB ATI Rage Mobility M4 3D 4X AGP
$1800+



Go Dell or Sony, Compaqs are crap in both desktops and laptops. IBMS are *ok* (better then compaq, but still no where near a dell or sony).

As for Video cards, if it doesnt have a GeForce2 GO, do NOT get it for any type of 3d programming or gaming. S3s run decent opengl, but everything looks like crap (and i do mean crap).

I have always been partial to Dell's, (except when they refused to use AMDs in their desktops, grrr) and i would recommend going there first for laptops.


Edited by - BenHanson on July 8, 2001 10:13:07 PM

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Posted 08 July 2001 - 05:08 PM

Hey thanks for the help. so far i have a Dell notebook customized.. heres the specs.. ill probibly wait about a week or 2, just incase i come across anything sweeter

Dell Inspiron 8000
Base System: Intel® Pentium® III Processor at 900MHz w/15" SXGA
Hard Drive: 20GB Hard Drive
Memory: 192MB SDRAM (2 DIMMs)
Fixed Optical Device Options: 8X DVD ROM w/Software Decoder
Floppy Drive: Lightweight Modular Floppy Drive
Modem: 56K Capable Internal Modem
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows Millenium
Microsoft® Productivity Software: Microsoft Works Suite 2001
Video: 16MB nVidia GeForce2 AGP Video Card
Network Interface Card: Xircom 10/100 Ethernet II PC Card
Warranty: 1 Yr Ltd Warranty - 1 Yr Mail-In Service + 1 Yr Phone Support
Home Essentials: Norton Anti-Virus 2001 (English)

so hows that? lol i assume that its more then enough. plus i think ill be able to afford it. $3500 canadian.

if you have seen anything better or if i should stay away from dell. [never used them before]

thanks for all the help!

#6 Ben Hanson   Members   -  Reputation: 122

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Posted 09 July 2001 - 06:39 AM

looks good to me.

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Posted 09 July 2001 - 06:58 AM

I am very fond of the Dell computers, infact I think the school systems in my state are. Most of the schools that I''ve visited have all or mostly Dell computers, but they''re all the optiplex crap, u know those refurbished computers some are fast others aren''t.

I wish they sould them in stores in my area I don''t like the idea of buying a computer over the internet...that''s one reason why I did not mention Dell in my above post.I know i should''ve been more objective but I wasn''t anyway those are some nice specs.

I really like the Sony VAIO specs though.
Docking bay, 20 gigs DVD and some have CD-RW and all the ports are on the bay, then it has special locking systems. They are pretty lite computers I must say but to bad I can''t say about the price they charge you for one.


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Posted 09 July 2001 - 07:22 AM

I have a dell laptop inspiron 8000 that I bought a week before NVidia came out with the GeForce 2 go. It pissed me off but I got an ATI Rage Mobility 128 32Mb 4agp that I''m really happy with. It''s probably second compared to the GeForce 2 Go with 32 mb that my friend just recently got. The 3d apps and tests we have done comparing the two are very similar. GeForce comes out a little ahead but not by much. Both are very good cards for laptops.




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