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#81 cowsarenotevil   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 1950

Posted 09 January 2011 - 03:41 PM

Hmm. So how does one get an "Expert Community Member" or "Outstanding Forum Member" badge, and what is the difference?
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#82 AndrewBC   Members   -  Reputation: 280

Posted 09 January 2011 - 03:48 PM

I posit that we remove the pandering "Be the first of your friends to like this" message in the facebook like area at the very least. Herp derp, it's a competition.

#83 Aardvajk   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 5284

Posted 09 January 2011 - 03:50 PM

Can I join the "Emperor wears no clothes" crew and say - Sorry - what exactly is the improvement?

#84 TheUnbeliever   Members   -  Reputation: 961

Posted 09 January 2011 - 03:50 PM

Do not want.
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#85 Josh Petrie   Moderators   -  Reputation: 2983

Posted 09 January 2011 - 03:55 PM

Hmm. So how does one get an "Expert Community Member" or "Outstanding Forum Member" badge, and what is the difference?


I check the button in your profile, basically.

And I have checked all of the buttons in my own profile. To illustrate how disgusting the UI looks. Grumble.

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#86 cowsarenotevil   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 1950

Posted 09 January 2011 - 04:02 PM

I check the button in your profile, basically.


Good, I'd like to have something vague to aspire to, if I ever get free time.

And I have checked all of the buttons in my own profile. To illustrate how disgusting the UI looks. Grumble.


I actually thought you were just deeply talented.
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#87 leiavoia   Members   -  Reputation: 960

Posted 09 January 2011 - 04:11 PM

Everything Mike.Popoloski said


and in addition:

- Miss my "favorite forums" a whole bunch. If GDnet only had a half dozen forums it wouldn't be an issue. But it has dozens. I don't read any but a few, so i want them handy.

- WAY too much whitespace. I feel like it's a mouse scrolling marathon just reading a forum. Or any page for that matter.

- More posts per page would be nice. maybe that's a feature and i missed it.

- I do want the old ratings system back. I worked too hard, too long, and was too nice to get my 1557 and i want it back :-(

- IOTD - it was the best feature on the front page. Now... it isn't.

- Despite the fact that i work full time as a webdev, i'm entirely uninterested in the whole facebook/twitter/whatever social networking cluster orgy garbage. I think it just clutters most web pages. I really liked when the web was simple.

- Recent Threads box on the front page should be at the very top. The forum is the most important part of GDnet.

#88 Josh Klint   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 1349

Posted 09 January 2011 - 04:12 PM

A few rough edges throughout the site, but the features and functionality are miles ahead of anything before it.

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#89 rip-off   Moderators   -  Reputation: 7719

Posted 09 January 2011 - 04:12 PM

Polls? Really?

While I can see *some* good uses for this, I think newbie users are more likely to use this for stupid topics like "rate my gamertag".

Other than that I want to use the site for a bit and see what I like and dislike.

#90 Calexus   Members   -  Reputation: 245

Posted 09 January 2011 - 04:14 PM

It's to bright and strains my eyes. And the most interesting part of the front page, the resent posts, should be at the top of the page. But I do like the airy design.
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#91 cowsarenotevil   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 1950

Posted 09 January 2011 - 04:18 PM

I have not yet fully apprehended the relationship between the five-star scales, the plus buttons, and the "reputation" for each member. That is, does giving a member a five-star rating effect their reputation as well? What about giving a topic (?) a five-star rating? Giving someone's post a plus?
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#92 MaulingMonkey   Members   -  Reputation: 1556

Posted 09 January 2011 - 04:21 PM

Oh my goodness what is this I don't even

#93 Programmer One   Members   -  Reputation: 746

Posted 09 January 2011 - 04:25 PM

Heh, I saw this like a year ago on somebody's laptop at the GDC. Kind of thought it was forgotten about there...

#94 szecs   Members   -  Reputation: 2099

Posted 09 January 2011 - 04:28 PM

I agree with Mike. The biggest problem I have is that facebookish design. Why the hell everything has to be like facebook?
The old site was so professional because it's extremely clean design. Not much fluff, just enough fluff. I never liked the other programming forums. If I'm in a tread now, it's like a room, I suffocate. It's so closed, I can't really express it.

But there are nice features, such as multiquote, and um.... avatars, and um..... uploading stuff, and um.... things like that. But all this fluff??:huh:

But I guess I'll get used to it.

#95 Alpha_ProgDes   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 4684

Posted 09 January 2011 - 04:35 PM

I take it there will be other themes for the site later. Other than that like most things a month or so everyone will stop complaining and get used to the default format. It's not all that bad. Just wish Active Topics worked though.

Also, the right side of the page where there is the Recent Status Updates and other things. Can that be made customizable?
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#96 UnshavenBastard   Members   -  Reputation: 311

Posted 09 January 2011 - 04:36 PM

Do not want.


This.

My eyes are "burning" already, and it's *really* bad for me to stare on a white page in the late hours of the day - when I usually read gdnet - since this reduces the likelyhood that I will sleep well, for physiological reasons.
Staring at lightbulbs for hours in the evening is no good!

But maybe the option to change the color scheme with logging in comes back...
just as I assume that the menus will stop their current strange behavior ^^

As for the layout, to put it bluntly: I think it sucks.

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#97 Orymus   Members   -  Reputation: 154

Posted 09 January 2011 - 04:41 PM

I prefered the old one, this is very much facebook-ed design to me :S
I suppose I'll get used to it though. I just thought I had typed in the wrong url for some reason.
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#98 Servant of the Lord   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 17310

Posted 09 January 2011 - 04:45 PM

I have to say that I'm unhappy with the new site. I liked the old one, and while it definitely needed improvement, I wouldn't call what we have now anything more than a step in the right direction.

1. De-emphasis of the forums...
2. Web 2.0...
3. Death of GDNet+...
4. Widescreen Users...
5. Losing the Rating System...
6. Sane Defaults...

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#99 Evil Steve   Members   -  Reputation: 1955

Posted 09 January 2011 - 04:46 PM

It's not all that bad. Just wish Active Topics worked though.

It appears that there's something similar on the Community section, as "Recent Forum Posts". But it's pretty hidden away, and is a bit short with only the last 5 posts shown...

I also miss the old-style Active Topics page, which is where I spend most of my time.

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#100 Extrarius   Members   -  Reputation: 1412

Posted 09 January 2011 - 04:51 PM

I have to say that I'm unhappy with the new site. I liked the old one, and while it definitely needed improvement, I wouldn't call what we have now anything more than a step in the right direction.

1. De-emphasis of the forums - For some reason the forums feel even more hidden away than they were before. It takes an extra click to go through the drop-down menu now, and the recent topics menu has been moved all the way down the main page. So much emphasis is being placed on the Careers and Articles sections, even though GDNet does not excel in those areas. Looking at the Careers page is pretty pathetic, and the articles section hardly ever has real technical content. I thought the new site would focus more on the forums, which are GDNet's strongest feature.

2. Web 2.0 - I think it's easy to see that they went way overboard in this area. Every page feels cluttered with tons of junk that isn't even that useful. Why are there sharing buttons all over the place? Why is so much space wasted? What is the point of friend lists? Why are there status updates next to the forum listing? It's like all this stuff was added just because they could. GDNet is not Facebook, and it is not Twitter. I don't see why it should be trying to emulate them either.

3. Death of GDNet+ - I think you guys are really shooting yourselves in the foot here with this one. You've cheapened GDNet+ significantly by giving everyone journals and avatars, when instead you should have been trying to add as many new things to GDNet+ as possible to make it more attractive and a more viable source of revenue. I mean, this is now listed as a primary feature of GDNet+:
"Up to 500 personal messages (10x more!)"

Seriously? You're touting an increased MAILBOX SIZE as a selling point? I've been subscribing to GDNet+ for years now, but I think when the renewal comes around again I'll be dropping it.

4. Widescreen Users - Why have we squished everything together, when everyone and their mom is moving towards widescreen monitors these days? It just makes no sense at all. So much horizontal space is lost, which in turn increases the vertical space required to read anything. Very frustrating.

5. Losing the Rating System - I know the rating system has always been controversial, but what you have now is completely pointless and should not even exist. No more down voting removes any incentive to keep your posts to community standards. As long as you don't do anything explicitly bannable, you can get away with whatever you like. Additionally, voting on posts and not users leads to run-away inflation for users who post a lot. Want more reputation? Just post more! It emphasizes quantity over quality, which is never a great idea. Finally, the rating is so hidden now that it might as well not even exist. The way I see it, you should either do it properly, or just remove the feature entirely if you feel GDNet users shouldn't be worrying about ratings at all. One or the other; not this middle ground.

6. Sane Defaults - I like that notifications are now very customizable, but someone wasn't thinking when the defaults were set. I started receiving emails for all sorts of useless events here, such as a user adding me as a friend. So much so, in fact, that GMail started putting everything coming from GDNet into the spam folder. Another questionable default is that of allowing people to be friends with you; apparently the default is to let them add you as a friend without you having any say in the matter. Now that they're friends, I have no way of getting rid of them, so they're not really friends as much as they are fans at this point :rolleyes:

Some of these problems are expected from a new software product, and I'm sure some will be fixed in the months to come. Unfortunately, I think a lot of them are explicit design decisions that have already been made. Hopefully not everything is set in stone at this point.

I entirely agree. I don't really like this new direction at all. I have enjoyed the forums here for a long while, but the new look completely turns me off from this site. I'm enduring a strong headache from the theme just to type this, and I'll likely not be back until I'm given a theme that doesn't burn my retinas. Even once that is changed, I'll probably drop this from my reading list if the community moves in the direction that the new site seems to be leading. I don't visit social networking sites for a reason, and if this site is walking away from its competency in technical discussions, it doesn't have a purpose for me any more. I can understanding wanting to target younger generations, but it'd be a shame for that to come at the cost of the experienced professionals that make up the foundation of these forums.

The old forums had a subtle yet significant selection of layout where the post was the only element to take up significant space with all the other information being squashed into a tiny space proportional to it's importance in discussions.
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