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#61 Alpha_ProgDes   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 4692

Posted 19 February 2011 - 04:48 PM



But, the system works. You were not charged of anything and you even got an apology. So what's the big deal? There are places where you could have gotten shot. 14 times. Just for warning.


Wow, fourteen times. You humans sure have mastered the art of overkill. Perhaps there even is a place where he could have gotten shot fifteen times. In that light, he would have been lucky, had he only been shot fourteen times.

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Two or three soldiers/thugs with automatic weapons and a short burst or two of gun fire from each of them? Yeah, 14 times sounds about right in that case. There are parts of world where you can get killed for less than being a dipstick.

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As much as it sucks for you and it feels like he overstepped his bounds, he pretty much was doing his job. Unfortunately, the fact that you did that to actually provoke the police doesn't help any. File a report, but don't expect anyone: a judge, police, or even IA to side with you.
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#62 LessBread   Moderators   -  Reputation: 1411

Posted 19 February 2011 - 05:01 PM

Talk to the lawyer your friends suggested. My guess is that nothing will come from it all anyway, but at least by talking to a lawyer you'll get better legal advice than what you'll get from us.

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#63 staticVoid2   Members   -  Reputation: 292

Posted 19 February 2011 - 08:00 PM

So what should I do?


Nothing. Realize that there is always someone worse off than you and get on with your life.

#64 Prune   Members   -  Reputation: 223

Posted 20 February 2011 - 01:23 AM

Overall i feel like you're an asshole.

Fair enough, but since when is that illegal? It certainly didn't justify a punch to the head--assault is definitely illegal.

I'd press charges if him punching you/tackling you caused any significant injuries to cover medical expenses.

Unfortunately, I live in Canada and the government covered my hospital visit and CT.
However, I still have pain and difficulty chewing, even though it's several days later (not to mention the increased exposure to cancer-causing X-rays from the CT scan, and the public embarrassment of being put in handcuffs).

Then you try to escape into your house. At this point, what is the cop thinking? For all he knows, your buddies are in there. They might have guns. Is it a safe house?

I'm pretty sure that I wrote it was my fucking office building.

He catches you. He punches you. And he's completely justified in doing so. What would you have him do, try the peaceful route, just say "please stop running?". Oh wait, you had that chance. You didn't take it. You forced him to either subdue you the violent way, or else not do his duty as a cop.

Bullshit. I did not resist once he caught up to me.

The fleeing (and resisting) suspect was subdued by way of a single blow followed by a tackle.

I was fleeing, but stopped once he caught up and did not resist.

You are of course assuming the OP was being calm when he said what he said; if the OP was being a dick about it (and based on the starting post of this thread that's highly likely) then that reaction is likely.

I was quite calm. Even when he painfully twisted my arm to cuff me, I only said in as calm a voice as I could have "you're hurting me".

A complaint won't do anything but mark him to actually be harassed by cops in the future.

So I figured, but thanks for the tip. I'll consider legal action instead.
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#65 Butabee   Members   -  Reputation: 238

Posted 20 February 2011 - 02:13 AM

OP, you'll be a real POS if you decide to persue legal actions on this guy.

I actually have experienced police brutality by getting beat down by 5 officers, while in their custody in jail where they clearly knew I had no weapons. I weighed around 130lbs and these guys had to be at least 180lbs+ each.

You really should consider yourself lucky because he probably could have gotten away with beating you severely.

#66 PrintFDebugger   Members   -  Reputation: 100

Posted 20 February 2011 - 02:19 AM

So after giving the officer reasonable grounds to suspect you were concealing a weapon, resisting arrest, failing to comply with verbal instructions, and probably giving the poor bloke a whack with the door you were taken down using non-lethal means so gentle they didn't even break the skin, then released with nary a caution to your name.

And you think you had it rough? You want to screw over the officer?

Shame wasting police time isn't more easily prosecuted.
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#67 SymLinked   Members   -  Reputation: 887

Posted 20 February 2011 - 03:12 AM


Overall i feel like you're an asshole.

Fair enough, but since when is that illegal? It certainly didn't justify a punch to the head--assault is definitely illegal.


Oh my. What is it that you don't understand? It's not illegal for him to punch you if you're running away from him and trying to avoid arrest by slamming a door in his face.
You need to grow up, and do it quick. I sincerely hope you will take legal action because then they'll all know what a jackass you are.

#68 Prune   Members   -  Reputation: 223

Posted 20 February 2011 - 06:21 AM

OP, you'll be a real POS if you decide to persue legal actions on this guy.

I actually have experienced police brutality by getting beat down by 5 officers, while in their custody in jail where they clearly knew I had no weapons. I weighed around 130lbs and these guys had to be at least 180lbs+ each.

You really should consider yourself lucky because he probably could have gotten away with beating you severely.

Just because your treatment was worse make mine good. there's no logic in that.
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#69 Prune   Members   -  Reputation: 223

Posted 20 February 2011 - 06:32 AM

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Oh my. What is it that you don't understand? It's not illegal for him to punch you if you're running away from him and trying to avoid arrest by slamming a door in his face.
You need to grow up, and do it quick. I sincerely hope you will take legal action because then they'll all know what a jackass you are.

He had no right to arrest me in the first place because I had committed no crime. I don't know where you live, but in a civilized country arbitrary arrest is not accepted practice.Moreover, the office building is private property and he had no right to follow me in there.

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#70 phantom   Moderators   -  Reputation: 7592

Posted 20 February 2011 - 06:47 AM


He catches you. He punches you. And he's completely justified in doing so. What would you have him do, try the peaceful route, just say "please stop running?". Oh wait, you had that chance. You didn't take it. You forced him to either subdue you the violent way, or else not do his duty as a cop.

Bullshit. I did not resist once he caught up to me.

The fleeing (and resisting) suspect was subdued by way of a single blow followed by a tackle.

I was fleeing, but stopped once he caught up and did not resist.


Really?

I reached the door, swiped my fob and got in. I pushed the door to close it but the cop got there too fast and forced the door open.


Sounds like you tried to resist to me... what with the whole running away thing followed by trying to close a door in his face.


You are of course assuming the OP was being calm when he said what he said; if the OP was being a dick about it (and based on the starting post of this thread that's highly likely) then that reaction is likely.

I was quite calm. Even when he painfully twisted my arm to cuff me, I only said in as calm a voice as I could have "you're hurting me".


Oh really?

I pointed out I had not done anything illegal


So how did you say this then?


As for 'no right'; he detained (not arrested) you because you acted suspciously and tried to avade him. Upon discovering that you were just being a dick he let you go.

The ONLY person doing ANYTHING wrong here is you! You wasted police time by being a dick, the fact that you can't see this is utterly moronic.

#71 GMuser   Members   -  Reputation: 211

Posted 20 February 2011 - 06:49 AM

Yeah dude, you are totally right. He had no right, no reason nor any logic with him. You acted within your rights, within reason and within logic. We all agree you should be showered with sympathy and the policedevil should be shunned and punished for his misdeeds. Woe, I say! To the fool who apologises, apology will not be given nor shared! A thousand posts of hate shall be typed against thou dwellers of the night; stalkers of the innocent-- cloaked in the guise of justice! Tonight is the night Gamedev stands for its rights! Tonight we fight for FREEDOM!

#72 szecs   Members   -  Reputation: 2185

Posted 20 February 2011 - 06:50 AM

The OP is clearly a troll. Don't be fooled.

#73 samoth   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 5037

Posted 20 February 2011 - 08:45 AM

Fact of the matter is the cop didn't even have to contact the OP to applogise; he could have left it and chances are many would have (I know I certainly wouldn't have done in the same situation).

More likely it is what the labor union representative and/or the lawyer told him to do, after he realized that he couldn't find any legitimate justification for his acting, got nervous, and talked with them.
Apologizing makes it less likely being sued for 5-20 million dollars because due to the excessive bodily harm and mental cruelty applied the victim can never work again and needs very expensive therapy. And, it keeps the penalty low if it comes to the worst case. It's what my lawyer told me too when I (quite accidentially, but nevertheless severely) injured a young woman in a car accident a few years ago. It may have been arguable whose fault the accident had been, but regardless of that it never went to court. So you could say that "the apology worked".

Depending on that cop's previous record, it may also very well be that he'd like to avoid having the fifth person in three months file a complaint against him, which alone would probably not do anything, but in sum will cost him a promotion or worse. We will never know.

#74 Luckless   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 1889

Posted 20 February 2011 - 07:33 PM

after he realized that he couldn't find any legitimate justification for his acting



Of course he couldn't find any legitimate justification for his actions, other than standard procedure, training, and law enforcement expectations.

The OP was a Suspect for acting suspicious, and was detained using reasonable force. He was then released after the officers could prove to themselves that the OP was in fact simply being an idiot and there was no evidence to use against him to press charges.
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#75 taby   Members   -  Reputation: 336

Posted 20 February 2011 - 08:19 PM

Hey guys, I already knew Prune was a moron months ago. Thanks for banning me for saying so at the time! :)

#76 Koobazaur   Members   -  Reputation: 691

Posted 20 February 2011 - 08:37 PM


Overall i feel like you're an asshole.

Fair enough, but since when is that illegal? It certainly didn't justify a punch to the head--assault is definitely illegal.


I'm not a lawyer, but I bet somewhere between deliberately acting suspiscious, fleeing from police, as well as resisting arrest (closing doors on him), there is something illegal there. Or at least, enough to raise the suspicion.

Also, you were running, slamming doors on him. High on adrenaline, you cant even remember if he yelled at you to stop or not. I'd bet he wasn't even trying to punch you in the face, but somehow between you trying to get a way, you just ended up exposing your face at just the wrong time. But even if it is true, you'll just deny it now and use at least one f-word replying to me, won't you?


I'd press charges if him punching you/tackling you caused any significant injuries to cover medical expenses.

Unfortunately, I live in Canada and the government covered my hospital visit and CT.


Wait wait wait, WHAT? this needs to be bolded and appended to the OP before anyone even replies anymore. You actually wish you had to pay extra money JUST so you could get a retribution from a cop you delibertaely incited? What the hell is wrong with you? Do you get off on provoking and screwing people around you???


However, I still have pain and difficulty chewing, even though it's several days later (not to mention the increased exposure to cancer-causing X-rays from the CT scan, and the public embarrassment of being put in handcuffs).


OH NO NOT THE CANCERS! NOT THE EMBARRASSMENT! If you're gonna be a twat and provoke people, then at least have the dignity not to act like a goddamn panzy when you get what you are asking for. I bet the cops wrist hurts more than your jaw.

I'm pretty sure that I wrote it was my fucking office building.


More angry, unwarranted, profanity-ridden replies. I don't think we are convinced you're enough of an asshole yet.

Bullshit. I did not resist once he caught up to me ... I was fleeing, but stopped once he caught up and did not resist.


Yea but you resisted all up to that point, including slamming doors on the cop, which is a pretty valid reasons for being suspicious of your behavior, and extra caution on his part was warranted. If I had some shady guy late at night with some shiny objects hidden under his shirt fleeing from me, I'd much rather punch him in the face once than get stabbed in a dark alley somewhere.

He had no right to arrest me


And he didn't arrest you. What's your point?

because I had committed no crime. I don't know where you live, but in a civilized country arbitrary arrest is not accepted practice.


Lol, are you seriously playing the "civilized country" card? If you are, I don't think you understand how civilized countries work.

No one in the history of any civilized world has ever been arrested for committing a crime. You get arrested for the suspicion of commiting a crime as backed up by evidence (such as fleeing from a cop or resisting arrest by trying to slam doors on a cop you are fleeing from). Whether you commited it or not is decided later (in court, and that is where, as someone pointed out, "innocent until proven guilty" comes into play). And you have acted suspicious enough.

Not that it matters because YOU WERENT ARRESTED. Stop victimizing yourself.

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Seriously, when I read your first post I just thought you're a dumb kid bored of life. But after your latest replies, I can see you're a dumb kid AND an utter twat who provoked and incited the cop and now is wanting retribution for retributions sake. Never mind law, nevermind courtesy (which you don't deserve) and nevermind professional code of conduct. You acted like an asshole and you deserve what you were deliberately asking for. Karma is far more efficient than any police force, innit?

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#77 code4fun   Members   -  Reputation: 258

Posted 20 February 2011 - 09:21 PM

You're right, he shouldn't have punched you in the face. He should have tased you.

#78 j-locke   Members   -  Reputation: 825

Posted 21 February 2011 - 12:21 AM

I think you should write this one off as learning experience and be done with it.




The next time this kind of boredom starts to kick in, find a more productive outlet than playing games with cops... go back to the club, watch a movie, play a game, call a friend, discover a new app on your phone, SOMETHING more productive than taunting people, especially police officers.



#79 kindjie   Members   -  Reputation: 290

Posted 21 February 2011 - 02:12 AM

I think you should write this one off as learning experience and be done with it.




The next time this kind of boredom starts to kick in, find a more productive outlet than playing games with cops... go back to the club, watch a movie, play a game, call a friend, discover a new app on your phone, SOMETHING more productive than taunting people, especially police officers.



Don't feel TOO bad about the whole thing - I had pretty much the same thing happen to me with the Vancouver Police for equally lame reasons, except they actually picked me up and took me in.

My story is that I was walking home down Granville St after dinner around 10pm at night. Cops had blocked off a part of the sidewalk, and I made the mistake of complaining out loud how they overreact to everything and used the word "pig." (I grew up in South Africa - cops don't show up en masse for minor offenses there :P) Next mistake I made was talking back to a cop that stopped me. I just wanted to get home since I had to drive my buddy to the airport early the next morning. As I turned to leave the one cop grabbed me and started beating me up. Another cop joined in when I was on the ground searched, cuffed and threw me into a van.

After I was finally booked, I talked to this absolutely wasted guy - tuns out he had attacked and broken the arm of cop, so they were all on edge and defensive about their buddy. I had no idea the hornet's nest I had walked into. First they charged me with public intoxication, but when they realized I had been telling the truth and blew a 0 on their breathalyser they charged me with disturbing the peace instead. They kept me for 10hrs in a holding cell and my friend had to take a taxi to the airport (he was flying home to Australia). I filed a complaint, but they said I tried to start a riot and it was dismissed. (I'm not joking either, they seriously said I tried to start a riot! I still have the letters.)

That was more than a few years ago, and I feel pretty stupid about the whole thing. You can bet your ass that I watch my mouth when I'm near police now. hehe

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#80 geo2004   Members   -  Reputation: 154

Posted 21 February 2011 - 12:32 PM

Unfortunately, I live in Canada and the government covered my hospital visit and CT.
However, I still have pain and difficulty chewing, even though it's several days later (not to mention the increased exposure to cancer-causing X-rays from the CT scan, and the public embarrassment of being put in handcuffs).


You really think that one CT scan is going to give you cancer....?
And of course your jaw is going to hurt, you got decked in the face. It will probably hurt for a week or two. Let that be a reminder not to do anything this stupid in the future. It's because of stupid stories like this that cops get the 'asshole cop' stereotype.


This story reminds me of when my roommate in college got a tattoo. I went with him and while he was getting it the guy doing the tattoo was telling us stories of when he was our age (about 21). He told us literally the exact same story. He was walking down the street and saw a cop car coming, so he just turned and ran for the hell of it. The cop gave chase and when he finally caught him, asked him why he ran. He said 'no reason, I'm just bored and wanted to see what you would do.'
I can't remember if he got arrested or beat for it, but he was laughing about it, and saying how much of a prick he used to be when he was younger.

Like the majority of everyone else here I agree you got what was coming. Suck it up and admit you were being a prick. There was no reason for any of your actions, and 100% valid reasons for the cops actions.

And like some of the others have mentioned, consider yourself lucky you weren't tazed or shot...although I think the story would have been even better had you been tazed.
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