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#1 d000hg   Members   -  Reputation: 782

Posted 16 March 2011 - 08:57 AM

I have a Wii without the Motion-plus, and a PS3 without Move. For games that really use motion-sensing properly, which would be best? My concern is that Wii is graphically far inferior but all games are designed to support motion-controllers. Whereas the PS3 is better hardware but games that support Move may do so rarely, or as a gimmick.

I don't want to get an XBox so Kinect is out... but I can upgrade either of my consoles quite cheaply. I'm thinking of sports games like tennis & golf which really benefit from the motion controller, rather than games which try to find a way to use it - for regular games the standard PS3 controller is fine.

This isn't meant to be a discussion on motion-controllers in general as a useful feature... but for those of us who do like them which route is best in terms of titles and hardware?

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#2 Machaira   Moderators   -  Reputation: 1028

Posted 16 March 2011 - 01:38 PM

I have a Wii without the Motion-plus, and a PS3 without Move. For games that really use motion-sensing properly, which would be best? My concern is that Wii is graphically far inferior but all games are designed to support motion-controllers. Whereas the PS3 is better hardware but games that support Move may do so rarely, or as a gimmick.

I don't want to get an XBox so Kinect is out...

So you've got a inferior console, one that doesn't support motion control well, and eliminated the best console with motion control for some arbitrary reason which you don't state. WTF?!? Posted Image Posted Image
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#3 Bigdeadbug   Members   -  Reputation: 173

Posted 17 March 2011 - 01:26 AM

Erm for sporty games i guess the Wii is best. It will have a bigger game library for that sort of thing, for the moment at least. Having said that i have only played the Wii and Kinect. If at some point you can i would certainly say the Kinect is a good investment (well so long as you have a great hall as a living room :P ).

#4 Hodgman   Moderators   -  Reputation: 30884

Posted 17 March 2011 - 01:38 AM

I'd look at the list of titles that are out on the move and see if any really interest you.

So you've got a inferior console, one that doesn't support motion control well, and eliminated the best console with motion control

Wow. Fanboism much?
Kinnect is a whole different kettle of fish to Wii/Move - you can't really compare them to say that one is better.
It's like saying that steering wheels are better than arcade controllers -- do you want to play street fighter or GT?
For example, games like Metroid or Zelda are (almost) impossible on Kinnect, but work well on a Wii/Move controller. Some games need a few buttons as well as arm waving.

[edit]The simplest way to compare them is that Kinnect captures elbow movements (and knees/shoulders/hips), while move/wii capture wrist movements.

#5 d000hg   Members   -  Reputation: 782

Posted 17 March 2011 - 03:58 AM


I have a Wii without the Motion-plus, and a PS3 without Move. For games that really use motion-sensing properly, which would be best? My concern is that Wii is graphically far inferior but all games are designed to support motion-controllers. Whereas the PS3 is better hardware but games that support Move may do so rarely, or as a gimmick.

I don't want to get an XBox so Kinect is out...

So you've got a inferior console, one that doesn't support motion control well, and eliminated the best console with motion control for some arbitrary reason which you don't state. WTF?!? Posted Image Posted Image

Let's enumerate your stupidity?

  • I don't want to spend $hundreds on a new console with Kinect when the other two options are far cheaper
  • There are no Kinect games available yet really
  • I don't want to have 3 consoles or ditch one I already have games for
  • My living room isn't big enough for kinect
  • etc
I don't think Wii is inferior to anyone who doesn't consider graphics the most important thing either. For games like tennis/golk, I'd also suggest holding a controller in your hand is more realistic than a controller-free system.



#6 ktuluorion   Members   -  Reputation: 392

Posted 18 March 2011 - 11:22 AM

I have a Wii without the Motion-plus, and a PS3 without Move. For games that really use motion-sensing properly, which would be best? My concern is that Wii is graphically far inferior but all games are designed to support motion-controllers. Whereas the PS3 is better hardware but games that support Move may do so rarely, or as a gimmick.

I don't want to get an XBox so Kinect is out... but I can upgrade either of my consoles quite cheaply. I'm thinking of sports games like tennis & golf which really benefit from the motion controller, rather than games which try to find a way to use it - for regular games the standard PS3 controller is fine.

This isn't meant to be a discussion on motion-controllers in general as a useful feature... but for those of us who do like them which route is best in terms of titles and hardware?



I have a Wii and PS3. I was never quite happy with the Wii, so I tried Move on PS3. My opinion? I love it! It's everything that I wanted from Wii - high precision, the great graphics that PS3 already had, cool games...

I highly recommend it. The system is pretty much 100% accurate, as opposed to the flailing around and halfway accurate approach that seems to come from Wii. For instance, in "The Fight", you need to punch like a real person and it perfectly mimics it. With boxing games on the wii, you can do other motions to "fool" it.

The only thing is that you mentioned that it is "Cheap" to do Move.. that wasn't my case at all. Look at it this way -- you get the starter pack for 100$, an extra controller (many games require 2 for one player), 50$, then 2 more controllers so another player can play, $100 more, then a game.. 50$... $300!!!!!

For my purposes, Ps3 move is way better than Kinect(games dont match with my interests), and Wii(Inferior technology).
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Posted 18 March 2011 - 12:01 PM

For my purposes, Ps3 move is way better than Kinect(games dont match with my interests), and Wii(Inferior technology).


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Posted 18 March 2011 - 12:10 PM


For my purposes, Ps3 move is way better than Kinect(games dont match with my interests), and Wii(Inferior technology).


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#9 Alpha_ProgDes   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 4692

Posted 19 March 2011 - 10:55 AM



I have a Wii without the Motion-plus, and a PS3 without Move. For games that really use motion-sensing properly, which would be best? My concern is that Wii is graphically far inferior but all games are designed to support motion-controllers. Whereas the PS3 is better hardware but games that support Move may do so rarely, or as a gimmick.

I don't want to get an XBox so Kinect is out...

So you've got a inferior console, one that doesn't support motion control well, and eliminated the best console with motion control for some arbitrary reason which you don't state. WTF?!? Posted Image Posted Image

Let's enumerate your stupidity?

  • I don't want to spend $hundreds on a new console with Kinect when the other two options are far cheaper
  • There are no Kinect games available yet really
  • I don't want to have 3 consoles or ditch one I already have games for
  • My living room isn't big enough for kinect
  • etc
I don't think Wii is inferior to anyone who doesn't consider graphics the most important thing either. For games like tennis/golk, I'd also suggest holding a controller in your hand is more realistic than a controller-free system.


Let's pretend you didn't read the title.

The title says: "Best platform for motion-sensing games". Xbox and the Kinect are superior as far as hardware and platform. All 3 go about motion-sensing differently. However the Xbox is the most sophisticated of the 3. So my vote is Xbox. Now to keep it within the options the OP laid out, I'd go for the Move. Red Steel has been tried twice with the Wii (with and without the MotionPlus) and both times motion-sensing has been said to be lacking.

By the way, you spelled "golf" wrong.
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#10 d000hg   Members   -  Reputation: 782

Posted 21 March 2011 - 06:16 AM

You never played golk? You're missing out ;)

#11 Bow_vernon   Members   -  Reputation: 137

Posted 21 March 2011 - 08:17 AM

Lolz, sadly, neither kinect nor ps3 move has penetrated gaming market in my country :'(

#12 XXChester   Members   -  Reputation: 917

Posted 21 March 2011 - 08:43 AM

No games for the Kinect? Someone isn't doing their homework. Also note you do not need an XBox for Kinect, you can very easily buy a kinect and use it on your computer which is where a lot of the interest appears to be (the capabilities for a computer vs a console).

Just my 2 cents.

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#13 d000hg   Members   -  Reputation: 782

Posted 21 March 2011 - 04:01 PM

No games for the Kinect? Someone isn't doing their homework. Also note you do not need an XBox for Kinect, you can very easily buy a kinect and use it on your computer which is where a lot of the interest appears to be (the capabilities for a computer vs a console).

Just my 2 cents.

Kinect on a non-XBox platform is unofficial right now and therefore fairly meaningless for this discussion. Not to mention, for games all the money from serious players is on XBox titles. As far as Kinect games, it's brand new and we know new technology requires a period of maturation for good games which aren't gimmicky.

The biggest issue is simply that Kinect requires more space than I have in the room. It's a non-starter.




#14 XXChester   Members   -  Reputation: 917

Posted 22 March 2011 - 06:28 AM

Agreed that it is not officially supported yet on non-XBox platforms...but it isn't on XBox either to indie developers. Sometime this spring though Microsoft is releasing a Kinect SDK which should than be officially supported on windows and the XBox. But yes if you do not have the 6-8feet in front of your TV than the kinect is out (unless you have that room in front of your computer).

Also note that just because something is not officially supported yet does not mean you cannot already start building a game/application around that technology or even using the hacked versions now to get a feel for how it works and than port it to the official SDK when it is released.

But that is neither here nor there sense Kinect is not one of your options. Best of luck with whatever you decide.

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#15 Hodgman   Moderators   -  Reputation: 30884

Posted 22 March 2011 - 06:58 AM

Xbox and the Kinect are superior as far as hardware and platform.

...except for detecting wrist movements.

#16 d000hg   Members   -  Reputation: 782

Posted 22 March 2011 - 07:12 AM

I'm looking as a game-player, not a developer. Everything I've read makes Kinect sound like a real winner from MS but it ain't my option right now... maybe next time new consoles come out and I get something new...

For now I think I made the choice to simply upgrade my Wii to MotionPlus. I only use the Wii for games that benefit from motion-controls anyway (the PS3 is best for regular games) and as such, this article made me consider that Wii is simply the stronger platform from my options:

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