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#41 Cornstalks   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 6966

Posted 17 May 2012 - 12:03 PM

I noticed something "odd". I upvoted ApochPiQ's post in the "Am I overengineering..." thread. Then, immediately, my rep points went up by +1. Is that by design?

Looks like it

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Never mind... that's the one thing I hate about AJAX stuff... you can't link to it. Click the bottom "Reputation" button.

Edited by Cornstalks, 17 May 2012 - 12:03 PM.

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#42 Michael Tanczos   Senior Staff   -  Reputation: 5142

Posted 17 May 2012 - 07:52 PM

I noticed something "odd". I upvoted ApochPiQ's post in the "Am I overengineering..." thread. Then, immediately, my rep points went up by +1. Is that by design?


Yep, you now get points when you upvote someone.. as does the person you are upvoting. This is capped per day. If you downvote someone you lose a point. This is to allow downvoting, but only at the cost of one rep point.

We will be studying this particular rep area to look for abuse patterns. We may need to completely reverse reputation spammers actions at times.

#43 cgpIce   Members   -  Reputation: 470

Posted 19 May 2012 - 01:42 PM

I myself like the idea of earning and losing with an up or down vote, my question is if I get lets say the cap is 5 if I get +1 for voting up then the cap would be 4 (well not really but id need four to reach it) then if i got -1 for voting down, would I need to vote up 5 more times to reach the cap or lets say just 4 as if my down vote was not made.

#44 Michael Tanczos   Senior Staff   -  Reputation: 5142

Posted 19 May 2012 - 03:55 PM

I myself like the idea of earning and losing with an up or down vote, my question is if I get lets say the cap is 5 if I get +1 for voting up then the cap would be 4 (well not really but id need four to reach it) then if i got -1 for voting down, would I need to vote up 5 more times to reach the cap or lets say just 4 as if my down vote was not made.


The caps are based on the number of votes that you make, not the number of points you accumulate from the votes. So an upvote counts as vote #1 for the day, a downvote counts as vote #2 for the day, and you have up to 3 more votes that you can make to earn points that day.

#45 Alpha_ProgDes   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 4680

Posted 19 May 2012 - 04:07 PM

Hold up! There's a cap on how many people you can upvote? Posted Image
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#46 swiftcoder   Senior Moderators   -  Reputation: 9584

Posted 19 May 2012 - 05:02 PM

Hold up! There's a cap on how many people you can upvote?

My understanding is that cap is on how many people you can up/down vote for credit.

i.e. your first 5 up/down votes each day will boost/lower your own rating. All up/down votes thereafter will affect the other user's reputation as per usual, but will not increase/decrease your own reputation.

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#47 Michael Tanczos   Senior Staff   -  Reputation: 5142

Posted 19 May 2012 - 09:42 PM

<br /> My understanding is that cap is on how many people you can up/down vote for credit.<br />


Yep, this is correct. I don't think we have a daily vote limit set on the site at the moment, but depending on how things go that may change. So far people have increased voting on posts by almost 600%.. mostly because of the design change I'd suspect.

The next blog update is going to start talking about the points you can get for different things.

#48 Alpha_ProgDes   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 4680

Posted 20 May 2012 - 05:59 AM

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I see.

Another question, I take it that if you get +100 for signing up, then you (another) +200 for signing up for GD.Net+?
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#49 Eric Lengyel   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 2173

Posted 20 May 2012 - 08:20 AM

Wait a minute. Wouldn't this mean that all someone has to do in order to avoid losing a point for downvoting is make sure he just upvotes 5 other posts right before?

#50 Alpha_ProgDes   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 4680

Posted 20 May 2012 - 08:38 AM

Or for every person he downvotes he'll need to upvote another person to keep his points the same. But since this is trial run, I guess it's worth seeing how well it works.

This may sound like a weird request, but is there anyway to show "certain" points? For instance, I don't want my participation points shown. Personally, everytime I see my points go up, I'm like "oh I wonder who rated up one of my post". Then I get the sad realization that I got +1 for logging in. Plus it's nice for me and probably the person looking at my score to see and immediately know that my points (however high) are from my posts in the Technical threads, ie. I know what I'm talking about :)
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#51 Stormynature   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 2661

Posted 20 May 2012 - 08:42 AM

Or for every person he downvotes he'll need to upvote another person to keep his points the same. But since this is trial run, I guess it's worth seeing how well it works.

This may sound like a weird request, but is there anyway to show "certain" points? For instance, I don't want my participation points shown. Personally, everytime I see my points go up, I'm like "oh I wonder who rated up one of my post". Then I get the sad realization that I got +1 for logging in. Plus it's nice for me and probably the person looking at my score to see and immediately know that my points (however high) are from my posts in the Technical threads, ie. I know what I'm talking about Posted Image


Do you mean something along the lines of if you post in the technical forums your tech rep number shows and if you post in the creative forums your creative rep number shows etc? I kind of like that idea to a degree. I would think that social side should show your complete score though.

#52 Alpha_ProgDes   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 4680

Posted 20 May 2012 - 09:16 AM

That would be a good idea as well. I like it.

However, I really just meant you get to choose what points show in your reputation. So, for example, participation (or is it social) points are (from what I understand) points I got from logging in and upvoting someone. Well I don't want those points to show. So I check a box that says, "don't show these points" or "don't show social points".
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#53 swiftcoder   Senior Moderators   -  Reputation: 9584

Posted 20 May 2012 - 09:26 AM

However, I really just meant you get to choose what points show in your reputation. So, for example, participation (or is it social) points are (from what I understand) points I got from logging in and upvoting someone. Well I don't want those points to show. So I check a box that says, "don't show these points" or "don't show social points".

Have to say, I'm not very happy with the new voting system thus far.

The fact that everyone's rating is constantly upticking makes the number completely useless - I can't tell at a glance whether someone is very helpful, or just gaming the system.

It's also odd to have the breakdown by technical/business/creative/social, but not be able to see that except by going to the person's ratings page. Means once again, I have a meaningless number that I have to research to see if it is in fact relevant.

Maybe the forum should display one's social rating in social forums, technical rating in technical forums, etc.?

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#54 Alpha_ProgDes   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 4680

Posted 20 May 2012 - 11:50 AM

Well it would be nice to have an official breakdown of what forums fall into what categories. Granted some of them are obvious. For instance, Lounge forum is in the Social category. But is there any other forums in the Social category?
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#55 Dragonsoulj   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 2008

Posted 20 May 2012 - 12:25 PM

As an addition to the breakdown for the various areas, why not show the reputation as such: "Reputation: 640 (1570)" where 640 is the areas reputation, and 1570 is the overall reputation. There's plenty of room in the username area for each post.

#56 Michael Tanczos   Senior Staff   -  Reputation: 5142

Posted 20 May 2012 - 02:30 PM

It's also odd to have the breakdown by technical/business/creative/social, but not be able to see that except by going to the person's ratings page. Means once again, I have a meaningless number that I have to research to see if it is in fact relevant.


Well, there isn't a technical/business/creative/social breakdown of reputation though. Also there isn't a way to earn points in the "social" forums either.

I *do* want a quick way to show the reputation in the four categories (scholar, author, moderator, participation) when you mouse over a person's profile, but I haven't figured out how best to do that.

The breakdown between technical, creative, business, and social is based off of post counts in each of the forum categories. I threw that in to add more stats related to a user. I can try to come up with a way to calculate stats broken down into those areas but that will take a bit of effort. The forums is only one facet of how reputation is earned.

Edited by Michael Tanczos, 20 May 2012 - 02:37 PM.


#57 szecs   Members   -  Reputation: 2093

Posted 22 May 2012 - 12:41 AM

+5 rep for reporting a post? Wow!
Time for squeaking.

#58 Michael Tanczos   Senior Staff   -  Reputation: 5142

Posted 22 May 2012 - 05:23 AM

+5 rep for reporting a post? Wow!


Remember though, -10 if a moderator rejects your report.. use it wisely.

#59 szecs   Members   -  Reputation: 2093

Posted 23 May 2012 - 01:50 AM

Is the voting up rep boost depending on the upvoter's reputation feature implemented?
I always get the same +/-4 points for my upvoted posts, no matter where I post them. Since I mostly post in beginner topics, that would mean that either 100 rep voters (the original posters) mean 4 point boost to me, or always higher rep members with about the same rep vote me up/down?
Or up voting from the original poster means more points? Maybe it's the non-fully implemented "mark as answer" feature?

BTW should these questions go in a different topic, or in the journals? I don't want to flood this one with my questions.

#60 Michael Tanczos   Senior Staff   -  Reputation: 5142

Posted 23 May 2012 - 05:35 AM

I always get the same +/-4 points for my upvoted posts, no matter where I post them. Since I mostly post in beginner topics, that would mean that either 100 rep voters (the original posters) mean


Well.. right now there are a couple of things at play that I considered tweaking yesterday. The formula I'm using to calculate point contributions is going to be tweaked this week because even new users can hit the +3 mark. It was originally supposed to take into account MUCH higher reputation, but the lack of anyone with a high reputation (the most we have is a around 3.3K or so) makes the bulk of the calculation worthless.. especially if capped at +4. The new formula will probably be something like clamp(floor(log(max(reputation, 1))/0.8-1), 1, 4)




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