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#21 before-it-was-popular   Members   -  Reputation: 316

Posted 11 September 2012 - 05:21 PM

or doused in gasoline and set on fire by PETA...

Ok, I've spent awhile on Google trying to figure this one out, and come up dry. Are you referring to People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals here, or some other organization that shares the acronym? I had never heard of that PETA setting people on fire, and I didn't think it was specific to Europe either - just curious.

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#22 swiftcoder   Senior Moderators   -  Reputation: 10242

Posted 11 September 2012 - 06:39 PM

Ok, I've spent awhile on Google trying to figure this one out, and come up dry. Are you referring to People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals here, or some other organization that shares the acronym? I had never heard of that PETA setting people on fire, and I didn't think it was specific to Europe either - just curious.

http://www.huffingto...a_n_376841.html

http://www.consumerf...-the-real-deal/

http://en.wikipedia....iberation_Front

Not to mention: http://en.wikipedia....shelter_animals

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#23 TheBlackDeath   Members   -  Reputation: 87

Posted 11 September 2012 - 07:06 PM

Living in the past is such a terrible way to live, I have forgotten the event of 9/11 mainly because remembering them makes no difference and it would be very hypocritical of me remembering 9/11 especially when things like TB despite being a popular killer never seems to get mentioned and it killed more than both world wars and continues to do so.

With obesity rates increasing, cancer being a number one killer and the environment getting screwed, I think its time we focused on the present issues.

Did I take the bait? Posted Image

The environment is not getting screwed--we are. It'll be here when we're long gone.

Anyway, 9/11 probably isn't still important to anyone unless they had a family member or friend die during the attack.

#24 timothyjlaird   Members   -  Reputation: 404

Posted 11 September 2012 - 08:27 PM


Living in the past is such a terrible way to live, I have forgotten the event of 9/11 mainly because remembering them makes no difference and it would be very hypocritical of me remembering 9/11 especially when things like TB despite being a popular killer never seems to get mentioned and it killed more than both world wars and continues to do so.

With obesity rates increasing, cancer being a number one killer and the environment getting screwed, I think its time we focused on the present issues.

Did I take the bait? Posted Image

Anyway, 9/11 probably isn't still important to anyone unless they had a family member or friend die during the attack.

You are in error. I did not have any relatives or friends killed in the attack but it still makes me angry. Then I read this crap which just reinforces it...

http://philly.xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20120911/ML.Egypt/

If it was up to me everyone who crossed the wall would have been shot the second they tried to raise that Islamist flag over our sovereign territory.

#25 ChaosEngine   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 2473

Posted 11 September 2012 - 08:30 PM

Anyway, 9/11 probably isn't still important to anyone unless they had a family member or friend die during the attack.


If you truly believe that, you fail to understand the world you live in. 9/11 has had enormous ramifications on the political, social and economic spheres.
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#26 ChaosEngine   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 2473

Posted 11 September 2012 - 08:37 PM


Ok, I've spent awhile on Google trying to figure this one out, and come up dry. Are you referring to People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals here, or some other organization that shares the acronym? I had never heard of that PETA setting people on fire, and I didn't think it was specific to Europe either - just curious.

http://www.huffingto...a_n_376841.html

http://www.consumerf...-the-real-deal/

http://en.wikipedia....iberation_Front

Not to mention: http://en.wikipedia....shelter_animals


While I'm with you that PETA are a bunch of nutjobs, I didn't see anything about them setting anyone on fire, and the huffpo article just links to this article:

... as it stands, listing PETA as domestic terrorists seems be more threatening to the general right for citizens to protest than anything else.


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#27 Memories are Better   Prime Members   -  Reputation: 769

Posted 11 September 2012 - 08:51 PM

http://philly.xfinit...20911/ML.Egypt/


EDIT: Originally I assumed (and this is purely from the link) that this wasnt as bad as the article made out to sound, simply because the news site was unheard of and popular sites were yet to report, I wish this were the case and that things were exaggerated but it is not

I will leave the vid here simply because it resulted in the events and if you watch it you will probably be wondering "how can such a crappy video provoke so much evil and anger, resulting in the death of innocent people"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmodVun16Q4

Edited by Dynamo_Maestro, 12 September 2012 - 07:09 PM.


#28 laztrezort   Members   -  Reputation: 968

Posted 11 September 2012 - 10:16 PM

9/11 has had enormous ramifications on the political, social and economic spheres.


Even some you probably didn't know about: http://www.cracked.c...nged-world.html

#29 TheBlackDeath   Members   -  Reputation: 87

Posted 11 September 2012 - 11:50 PM


Anyway, 9/11 probably isn't still important to anyone unless they had a family member or friend die during the attack.


If you truly believe that, you fail to understand the world you live in. 9/11 has had enormous ramifications on the political, social and economic spheres.

Maybe I don't live in your reality.

#30 teutonicus   Members   -  Reputation: 518

Posted 12 September 2012 - 12:23 AM

OMG it is the right vid, holy shit it was badly done, wow how can anyone get offended by it, its soo bad its funny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmodVun16Q4

That,.. Was,.. TERRIBLE!!

I was laughing the whole way through, it was truly awful, so funny how bad the sound, acting and scene was, I cant wait for the full movie hahaha


http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/11/13807579-american-killed-in-libya-during-protests-about-prophet-muhammad-video?lite
I wonder what the response will be to the full movie ...

#31 ChaosEngine   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 2473

Posted 12 September 2012 - 12:26 AM

Maybe I don't live in your reality.


Probably not. I'm not sure that you and reality are on speaking terms.
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#32 Net Gnome   Members   -  Reputation: 773

Posted 12 September 2012 - 06:08 AM

the sad part... people are such morons... wtf...

Edited by Net Gnome, 12 September 2012 - 06:39 AM.


#33 way2lazy2care   Members   -  Reputation: 782

Posted 12 September 2012 - 07:12 AM

You are in error. I did not have any relatives or friends killed in the attack but it still makes me angry. Then I read this crap which just reinforces it...

http://philly.xfinit...20911/ML.Egypt/

If it was up to me everyone who crossed the wall would have been shot the second they tried to raise that Islamist flag over our sovereign territory.


One thing I don't get is this guy is clearly an asshole for making the video. It's a couple of assholes making this movie. Why is storming an embassy filled with probably-not-assholes going to do anything to get revenge on some asshole thousands of miles away. All it does is prove that you are also an asshole. How many people would even know about the movie if it weren't for a bunch of assholes attacking the country in response.

I really hate how the knee-jerk response is always, "Hey, I'm pissed. Let's hurt a bunch of innocent people!" Not unique to the middle east. It happened in the US after 9/11 and will probably happen again now. I just absolutely hate that about humans in general; especially when generally they are defending one of a handful of religions that generally idolize forgiveness and love.

In the words of the internet, don't feed the troll.

edit: yea after more news gets revealed it looks like the attacks were planned anyway and they piggybacked on a bunch of pissed off people to pull it off.

This did make me feel better though.

Edited by way2lazy2care, 12 September 2012 - 07:23 PM.


#34 Prinz Eugn   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 3656

Posted 12 September 2012 - 06:46 PM

It's crazy they actually killed the ambassador, but it looks like now the attack was planned apart from the protests, and just used the oppurtunity for cover.

http://www.huffingto...a_n_376841.html[/url]

http://www.consumerf...-the-real-deal/

http://en.wikipedia....iberation_Front

Not to mention: http://en.wikipedia....shelter_animals


I'm not a fan of PETA, but this is pretty much an internet argument fail. PETA != all animal rights extremists.

1) Huffington Post link to article actually disagreeing with the premise that PETA is a terrorist organization
2) Link to fast food and meat industry lobbying firm with a vested interest in making PETA look bad
3) Wikipedia link to a different, significantly crazier, organization
4) Something completely unrelated to the charge that PETA is a terrorist organization

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#35 swiftcoder   Senior Moderators   -  Reputation: 10242

Posted 12 September 2012 - 06:56 PM

3) Wikipedia link to a different, significantly crazier, organization

You may have missed the point where PETA has in the past provided funding to the ALF?

4) Something completely unrelated to the charge that PETA is a terrorist organization

That was mostly because I find it highly ironic that an organisation which advocates animal rights as equal to human rights, then turns around and 'murders' 85% of those animals...

Tristam MacDonald - Software Engineer @Amazon - [swiftcoding]


#36 Memories are Better   Prime Members   -  Reputation: 769

Posted 12 September 2012 - 07:04 PM

In addition to killing the ambassador they also killed a player from EVE Online, who was a high ranking and popular player in the largest alliance. Who was working in the embassy at the time, the events that took place in the embassy should not have happened, it is very chilling when you find out someone killed in cold blood lasts ever words were "Fuck Gunfire"

I wont bother going into more details, if you play EVE you probably already knew and typically I have nothing but bad things to say about news that involves religion or religion in general

#37 timothyjlaird   Members   -  Reputation: 404

Posted 12 September 2012 - 08:30 PM

Meh. Most people seem to use religion to give them something bigger than themselves to latch onto in order to maintain sanity in the midst of an insane world. It isn't intrinsically good or bad. Religion can be twisted for good or evil deeds.

What I'd really like to know is who was pulling the strings on this (seems interesting that it was perfectly synchronized with the anniversary of 9/11). It would be worth a million in taxpayer dollars to drop a missile on his head.

#38 swiftcoder   Senior Moderators   -  Reputation: 10242

Posted 12 September 2012 - 08:42 PM

Meh. Most people seem to use religion to give them something bigger than themselves to latch onto in order to maintain sanity in the midst of an insane world

It always surprises me just how much of that insanity seems to flow from a human need to apply blindly ideologies (I'm not just picking on religion here - blind adherence to the tenets of Capitalism makes just as little sense).

Tristam MacDonald - Software Engineer @Amazon - [swiftcoding]


#39 Alan Greenspan   Banned   -  Reputation: -6

Posted 12 September 2012 - 09:49 PM

EDIT: Originally I assumed (and this is purely from the link) that this wasnt as bad as the article made out to sound, simply because the news site was unheard of and popular sites were yet to report, I wish this were the case and that things were exaggerated but it is not

I will leave the vid here simply because it resulted in the events and if you watch it you will probably be wondering "how can such a crappy video provoke so much evil and anger, resulting in the death of innocent people"



And you wonder if Americans deserve what they get.

#40 SimonForsman   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 6189

Posted 13 September 2012 - 12:54 AM

This did make me feel better though.


Yeah, its good that there is lots of sane people in every country, too bad the idiots keep making all the noise.
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