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#1 Rhetorician   Members   -  Reputation: 119

Posted 11 September 2012 - 08:44 PM

I wonder why this place is the most popular game development community.

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#2 way2lazy2care   Members   -  Reputation: 782

Posted 11 September 2012 - 08:48 PM

I wonder why this place is the most popular game development community.


This will end well.

#3 Cod   Members   -  Reputation: 166

Posted 11 September 2012 - 08:49 PM

Its not that bad, but to respond to your comment, if you type "game developer community" or "game development community", this site is the top result.

I feel like there is a sense of "elitism" on these forums, but its easy to shrug off. If you hate it that much, don't bother visiting the site (or forums).

#4 jefferytitan   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 1721

Posted 11 September 2012 - 09:01 PM

Don't be a typical user. What exactly do you hate? The experience of a site like this is a combination of technology, size of userbase, experience of userbase, amount of content, general attitude, modding system, personal expectations, personal preconceptions, etc.

#5 jbadams   Senior Staff   -  Reputation: 17321

Posted 11 September 2012 - 09:14 PM

Ok, no one is forcing you to use this site and forums, but personally I think we have one of the best communities available.

Are you just venting, trying to start a fight on purpose, or would you actually like to offer some constructive feedback on why you don't like it or what you might like to see changed/improved? We do take user feedback on board, and we're doing our best to offer the best development community possible, but we can't really work with "I hate this site"; what specifically do you hate?

#6 jefferytitan   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 1721

Posted 11 September 2012 - 09:19 PM

Well the only logical response to feedback "I hate this site" is to close the site. Duh. Posted Image

#7 Toothpix   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 810

Posted 11 September 2012 - 09:44 PM

I actually like the site and the members, even if the news feed is mostly boring.

C dominates the world of linear procedural computing, which won't advance. The future lies in MASSIVE parallelism.


#8 szecs   Members   -  Reputation: 2099

Posted 11 September 2012 - 09:49 PM

Yup, this site and especially the forums are full of douchebags who don't offer instant ready-to-copy-in answers to all of the problems I encounter during developement, so FUXK OFF gamedev!!!!111

*is hating*

Edited by szecs, 11 September 2012 - 09:49 PM.


#9 laztrezort   Members   -  Reputation: 954

Posted 11 September 2012 - 10:12 PM

I hate corn.

Also, I hate it when I can't think of a word, and the more I try to remember the word I am looking for, the more it seems to recede from my memory. What's that called?

#10 Heath   Members   -  Reputation: 344

Posted 11 September 2012 - 10:56 PM

For the record, I hate almost every online community to some degree. Well, no, not even almost, I hate them all for all their own reasons. I still put up with the ones I feel are tolerable.

This one is tolerable. There are certain users here who have been on for a very long time who really are helpful. And there are those who demand some obeisance from other users for some reason; I don't go for that.

Do what you want Reflexus, no one is forcing you here.

#11 Hodgman   Moderators   -  Reputation: 27913

Posted 11 September 2012 - 10:59 PM

I feel like there is a sense of "elitism" on these forums, but its easy to shrug off. If you hate it that much, don't bother visiting the site (or forums).

When I first came to this site, I thought "jeez, everyone here is an arrogant jerk!", but then I just realised that it's a geek forum on the internet...
Plenty of other email groups or forums are much worse with the arrogance, with simple topics being turning into flaming bikesheds.

I find that if you just default to assuming good intentions behind everyone's posts, then you get along just fine.

#12 Cornstalks   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 6966

Posted 11 September 2012 - 11:09 PM

I wonder why this place is the most popular game development community.

> EAT ROPE


On a more serious note, if you were specific about what you didn't like and what the problems were, people could either a) change them in the community, or b) explain to you why things are the way they are. Your opinion is fine. You can hate it all you want. But if that's all you have to say, my response is "Cool story, Hansel," because otherwise I'm not sure how you want me to respond (hence my random response).
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#13 uart777   Members   -  Reputation: -126

Posted 11 September 2012 - 11:24 PM

Reflexus: "I wonder why this place is the most popular game development community"


Same reason why McDonalds hamburgers are the most popular in the world. They're not the best quality, far from it, anyone can make a better hamburger at home. gamedev is like the McDonalds of game/graphics programming, they are popular for reasons other than quality, mainly advertisements and accessibility. I remember when this site came out in the 90s. I hate certain aspects of this site, as well, such as its poor design and organization that could easily be improved in 5 minutes.

However, there is a wealth of GOOD information here. There are MANY excellent game/graphics programmers who share/contribute code here, although gamedev makes it impossible to find.

I hate the way these newbie HL (C++/C#/Java) so-called "programmers" today write code - most of them are mindless followers who are incapable of thinking for themselves, they do what their master Microsoft tells them to without question - BUT I respect EVERYONE who makes a useful application or fun game in ANY language.

If you want to learn REAL PROGRAMMING concepts - ASM and machine code - from a REAL OLD SCHOOL GRAPHICS programmer, please visit my game/graphics programming site: http://sungod777.zxq.net/

#14 Cornstalks   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 6966

Posted 11 September 2012 - 11:35 PM

If you want to learn REAL PROGRAMMING concepts - ASM and machine code - [...]

I'm gonna nitpick this and say that real programming concepts have little to do with assembly and machine code. Real programming concepts tend to be language agnostic. Assembly can be useful to learn, and I'd encourage everyone to (at some point in their programming career) learn at least just a little assembly, just for the heck of seeing how processors work and appreciating them. But I'd argue that you don't have to learn assembly to learn real programming concepts, and much less so for machine code.
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#15 jbadams   Senior Staff   -  Reputation: 17321

Posted 11 September 2012 - 11:46 PM

organization that could easily be improved in 5 minutes

How would you improve site organization? If you think it could be improved with 5 minutes work, why don't you suggest some of the changes so we can consider making them?

#16 uart777   Members   -  Reputation: -126

Posted 12 September 2012 - 12:39 AM

"real programming concepts have little to do with assembly and machine code" - Who are you to talk about real programming? It's NOT about one thing, there are aspects involved in game/graphics programming: design, art, programming. It all depends on what you're doing. If you're making a game/graphics compiler, then you MUST KNOW ASM, machine code, compiler specifics and graphics. If you're writing your own software rendering code, it's extremely important that you know ASM very well in order to take advantage of modern CPU instructions like SSE. I don't have time to get into details right now. However, I have stated clearly that I respect ANYONE who makes a useful application or fun game in ANY language.


jbadams: "How would you improve site organization? If you think it could be improved with 5 minutes work, why don't you suggest some of the changes so we can consider making them?" - Why should I give my ideas and designs? Why not just make a better game/graphics programming site? If you actually read my post, you would see that I defended gamedev by saying that there are MANY GOOD game/graphics programmers here who have useful information.

"what specifically do you hate?" - Good question, jbadams. I don't think he can answer it =)

#17 Hodgman   Moderators   -  Reputation: 27913

Posted 12 September 2012 - 12:44 AM

Who are you to talk about real programming?

That's a very strange thing to say...
What qualifies a person to be allowed to talk about "real programming"?

#18 uart777   Members   -  Reputation: -126

Posted 12 September 2012 - 12:51 AM

Hogman: Cornstalks made the statement about "real programming" and I merely responded. He said: "real programming concepts have little to do with assembly and machine code". So, I asked what authority he has to say "real programming" is? Understand? =)

#19 uart777   Members   -  Reputation: -126

Posted 12 September 2012 - 12:52 AM

Exactly, that was my question to him. What authority does he have to say what "real programming" is?

#20 Hodgman   Moderators   -  Reputation: 27913

Posted 12 September 2012 - 12:57 AM

Understand?

No, I'm wondering why you've got "the authority" to state an opinion, but your critics don't have "the authority" to dispute them?

I mean, look - I can stack your two replies on top of each other to make you shoot down your own statement:

If you want to learn REAL PROGRAMMING concepts - ASM and machine code

Who are you to talk about real programming? It's NOT about one thing, there are aspects involved in game/graphics programming: design, art, programming. It all depends on what you're doing.

You say that ASM is a "real programming" topic, then someone else says (paraphrasing) "real programming is bigger than any specific subject, real programming transcends language", then you needlessly attack their authority (implying you are an authority?) and make the same point they just made.

N.B. a 3rd party (not involved in the thread so far) reported your original post for trolling and the sungod link as being fake... Perhaps you need to read it again?

Edited by Hodgman, 12 September 2012 - 01:18 AM.





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