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#21 jbadams   Senior Staff   -  Reputation: 17641

Posted 12 September 2012 - 01:01 AM

Hogman: Cornstalks made the statement about "real programming" and I merely responded. He said: "real programming concepts have little to do with assembly and machine code". So, I asked what authority he has to say "real programming" is? Understand? =)

He was responding to a statement from you about "real programming" -- that was definitely a topic you raised first. So the question is what qualifies YOUR opinion any more or less than Cornstalks'?

You stated an opinion, and he stated an alternative point of view. It seems odd that you consider your opinion automatically more valid?


We're getting a little off the original topic though...

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#22 uart777   Members   -  Reputation: -126

Posted 12 September 2012 - 01:03 AM

Hodgman: Sorry, you're completely misunderstanding me. Please scroll up and re-read messages. I rarely state an opinion, but when I do, I welcome critics to challenge it. Please prove me wrong.

Remember, this post is about the fool who says he hates his site, but did not provide any reasons why.

#23 game of thought   Members   -  Reputation: 212

Posted 12 September 2012 - 02:12 AM

Reflexus: "I wonder why this place is the most popular game development community"


Same reason why McDonalds hamburgers are the most popular in the world. They're not the best quality, far from it, anyone can make a better hamburger at home. gamedev is like the McDonalds of game/graphics programming, they are popular for reasons other than quality, mainly advertisements and accessibility. I remember when this site came out in the 90s. I hate certain aspects of this site, as well, such as its poor design and organization that could easily be improved in 5 minutes.

However, there is a wealth of GOOD information here. There are MANY excellent game/graphics programmers who share/contribute code here, although gamedev makes it impossible to find.

I hate the way these newbie HL (C++/C#/Java) so-called "programmers" today write code - most of them are mindless followers who are incapable of thinking for themselves, they do what their master Microsoft tells them to without question - BUT I respect EVERYONE who makes a useful application or fun game in ANY language.

If you want to learn REAL PROGRAMMING concepts - ASM and machine code - from a REAL OLD SCHOOL GRAPHICS programmer, please visit my game/graphics programming site: http://sungod777.zxq.net/

I agree sometimes replies can be a wee bit insulting, but i have just assumed that they were pointing out my errors and that its constructive.

As for the library the above quote mentioned i will certainly downloading it once i get my assembly learning done

#24 uart777   Members   -  Reputation: -126

Posted 12 September 2012 - 03:58 AM

jbadams: Why does your fragile little mind react without thinking? You had my post deleted because you couldn't think of an intellectual response.


All I did was defend myself against your false accusations and simple-minded assumptions. I was being polite and respectful.
If you outsmart jbadams - which is very easy to do without trying :) - he'll delete your post.


Thanks for the motivation to create a game/graphics site that is superior to gamedev :)

#25 rip-off   Moderators   -  Reputation: 7958

Posted 12 September 2012 - 04:05 AM

I deleted one of your posts, not jbadams. You already know this, because we have had a PM conversation concerning the content of that post and why I removed it.

You are deliberately lying and playing the victim. Consider carefully your next move, I am close to the limit of tolerance for your behaviour thus far in this thread.

#26 jbadams   Senior Staff   -  Reputation: 17641

Posted 12 September 2012 - 04:33 AM

1. Excepting spam, I never delete a post without personally contacting the author with an explanation or unless the deletion was requested for a good reason, and this only happens a handful of times per year. I would never remove a post purely out of censorship or to make my side of an argument look better; furthermore, given our community is very active, willing to speak their minds, and technically proficient, I would expect to be both caught and called out if I did try such a tactic.

2. Everyone can plainly see that you initially raised the discussion of "real programming" (at the bottom of post #13), and then negatively reacted to Cornstalks' reply in post #16. You gave an opinion, but questioned the right of another user to offer an alternative one. Personally I don't think it was particularly unreasonable of anyone to question that, and I'm not sure why you decided to take that conversation into an argument.

3. You're more than welcome to disagree with me, and other members do so all the time. I might argue another point of view, but I won't censor you or abuse my moderation capabilities. I don't appreciate you telling lies or trying to portray me as some sort of villain.


Don't tell lies, and stop falsely playing the victim -- you will be caught out in any lies, and you will be called on foolish behaviour.

#27 Dwarf King   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 1731

Posted 12 September 2012 - 05:03 AM

I love this site. I love it because people with degrees, students and self taught can meet here and exchange ideas. Here no title or position protects you. Just the codes and the solution to a problem that one can offer counts. Now I said it. I simply love this site for not being a "Professors only place" Posted Image

In fact I owe everything to this site as I have learned stuff no university could(or perhaps would) teach me here. Great books and articles and the many old threads one can search through are great too.

A great thanks from the Dwarf King to the staff.

"The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education"

Albert Einstein

"It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education"

Albert Einstein

 


#28 Net Gnome   Members   -  Reputation: 769

Posted 12 September 2012 - 05:18 AM

I simply love this site for not being a "Professors only place"


Agreed. This site is probably one of the better ones i've found. Sure, i've made my flubs and ate the crow that has come with it, but just calm yourself and treat it as a learning experience, and you grow all the better for it Posted Image

Edited by Net Gnome, 12 September 2012 - 05:41 AM.


#29 uart777   Members   -  Reputation: -126

Posted 12 September 2012 - 05:23 AM

jbadams: "you initially raised the discussion of "real programming"". All I said was this: If you want to learn REAL PROGRAMMING concepts ... please visit my game/graphics programming site... (which I can't post). Then Cornstalks said "real programming concepts have little to do with assembly and machine code". So, I responded by saying that it depends on what you're doing.

rip-off: "You are deliberately lying" - No, I assumed that jbadams reported me or had my post deleted.


jbadams: "Don't tell lies" - Please look in the mirror and see who the real liar is. Whatever imperfection you recognize in anyone else is self-evident. Anyone who knows me in real life would tell that I'm the realest, most honest, sincere person they've ever met. You know NOTHING about me but you make foolish judgements about me that are completely false. If you knew me in real life,
there'd be no argument.

#30 skarab   Members   -  Reputation: 436

Posted 12 September 2012 - 05:29 AM

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#31 jbadams   Senior Staff   -  Reputation: 17641

Posted 12 September 2012 - 05:32 AM

@uart777:
If you have some personal issue with me please take it up with me personally via private message, or if you'd prefer to keep it public by starting a new topic. This discussion is way off point, and it needs to stop so that we don't have to close it before others -- including the original poster -- have the chance to give input. If we've somehow horribly mis-treated you I apologise, but I really don't understand what you're getting so worked up about.

FYI: I've deleted an accidental double-post you made in this topic.


If everyone could try to keep this topic on track from here on in it would be appreciated.

#32 uart777   Members   -  Reputation: -126

Posted 12 September 2012 - 05:34 AM

This is who I am:

http://www.facebook.com/uart777


PS: If you want to delete me for providing these links, go right ahead, but please take a look at them first before making false judgments about me.

#33 uart777   Members   -  Reputation: -126

Posted 12 September 2012 - 05:35 AM

jbadams: I don't have anything personal against you and I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. I gotta get to bed now. Good luck.

#34 slicer4ever   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 3288

Posted 12 September 2012 - 05:36 AM

Anyone who knows me in real life would tell that I'm the realest, most honest, sincere person they've ever met. You know NOTHING about me but you make foolish judgements about me that are completely false. If you knew me in real life,
there'd be no argument.

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seriously, why did this become a conversation, clearly the OP is trying to troll the site as he runs off, and doesn't respond.

either you like a site, or don't, personally. i <3 this site, the community is great, and helpful, and always willing to point me in the right direction.

if you know how to ask the questions the right way, and put out the information that others need to understand the problem, then you'll get a good response, but if you withhold information(as i've seen many posters bickering about not being helped here, when their only problem was that they weren't willing to explain their problems to the fullest) then your not going to be helped to the fullest.

Edited by slicer4ever, 12 September 2012 - 05:37 AM.

Check out https://www.facebook.com/LiquidGames for some great games made by me on the Playstation Mobile market.

#35 Dwarf King   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 1731

Posted 12 September 2012 - 05:37 AM

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Now that is cute Posted Image

"The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education"

Albert Einstein

"It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education"

Albert Einstein

 


#36 RulerOfNothing   Members   -  Reputation: 1156

Posted 12 September 2012 - 05:38 AM

jbadams: "you initially raised the discussion of "real programming"". All I said was this: If you want to learn REAL PROGRAMMING concepts ... please visit my game/graphics programming site... (which I can't post). Then Cornstalks said "real programming concepts have little to do with assembly and machine code". So, I responded by saying that it depends on what you're doing.

If you want to learn REAL PROGRAMMING concepts - ASM and machine code - from a REAL OLD SCHOOL GRAPHICS programmer, please visit my game/graphics programming site:

Why are liars on the internet so stupid? Do you seriously think people cannot remember things that happened barely 6 hours ago?

#37 kuramayoko10   Members   -  Reputation: 386

Posted 12 September 2012 - 06:35 AM

OK. Let's come back to the original topic.

There is already a forum for suggestions and ideas: GDNet Comments, Suggestions and Ideas
Note: This post should be either locked or moved to that forum.

So if you created an account here and expected contribution from the community, you have to at least acknowledge:
1) Communities work based on everyone's contribution. That being said either you help someone in one topic or you provide feedback for the Moderators and Staff to improve the website
2) People on internet (just like on traffic) tend to transform themselves in trolls, monsters and such that say stuff that they probably wouldn't say in real life.
The best tool you have against a troll is to ignore it completely (do not reply to his posts) and use the report button on the bottom of his post. The thing that all trolls have in common is the need for attention. If nobody gives them that, they will feel powerless.

When those 2 things are followed by the biggest part of the community, the site and forums become a great place to get info, solve questions and hangout.
In my personal opinion, since I have joined many forums, Gamedev.net has achieved this over the years and is doing pretty well right now.

Edited by kuramayoko10, 12 September 2012 - 06:37 AM.

Programming is an art. Game programming is a masterpiece!

#38 Cornstalks   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 6974

Posted 12 September 2012 - 08:04 AM

"real programming concepts have little to do with assembly and machine code" - Who are you to talk about real programming? It's NOT about one thing [...]

wtf... Did you just agree with me right after questioning who I am to talk about real programming? Actually, don't answer that question. We've derailed this thread enough.

I've got another thing to nitpick:

I hate certain aspects of this site, as well, such as its poor design and organization that could easily be improved in 5 minutes.
[...]
please visit my game/graphics programming site: [...]

I just clicked on your site for kicks and giggles, and was rudely punched in the eyes. I don't think someone with a site designed like yours should be claiming GameDev.net has poor design and organization and that it could easily be improved in 5 minutes.

Unless, of course, you're just trolling. In which case, well played.
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