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#1 savail   Members   -  Reputation: 332

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 02:01 PM

Hey,
I'm creating a network for my game in Enet lately. Earlier I was trying to implement whole networking system by myself but I gave up (mainly becouse of lack of time). And there was something like a protocol ID - int variable cotaining 0x11223344(some random number). This protocol ID was being sent together with whole data each time. The idea as far as I remember was that thanks to this Protocol ID I could verify that given message comes from trusted provider(my server). Now I would like to create such a protocol ID again but actually I'm not quite sure how should this protocol ID look. Does it really have to be so complex (for casual mortal) stored as a hexadecimal number in int variable? Or can it be a normal string? Does it make any difference?

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 02:25 PM

a number is smaller than a string and faster to compare against but other than that it doesn't really matter.
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#3 savail   Members   -  Reputation: 332

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 02:38 PM

Thanks for answer!
I had to convert the protocol ID from haxedecimal int into char string anyway so I was sending somehow string at all. Therefore I guess I'll make up some protocol ID consisting of 4 chars ^^

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 02:58 PM

If I understand you correctly, the main thing is to try pick an "unlikely" number. This way there is less chance that a random packet that happens to be using the same port as you will be misidentified as a legitimate attempt to talk your application's custom protocol. Use a random number generator - choosing the number yourself will almost certainly bias the results towards numbers that humans find "interesting" or "random". Do a search to see if the number you generate is already used - colliding with a existing protocol is exactly what you are seeking to avoid!

You can get away with including such identifiers with "anonymous" packets, such as connection attempts, broadcast discovery or server metadata queries. Once the client has successfully connected, the value of including such an identifier is much lower.

To be clear, it does not and cannot give you any real confidence as to the origin of the packets - you would need cryptography for that.

#5 0BZEN   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 2011

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 03:52 PM

Thanks for answer!
I had to convert the protocol ID from haxedecimal int into char string anyway so I was sending somehow string at all. Therefore I guess I'll make up some protocol ID consisting of 4 chars ^^


It's generally called a FourCC 'magic number'.

It's a poor way to secure your communications, but there you go.

Edited by papalazaru, 08 October 2012 - 03:53 PM.

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#6 hplus0603   Moderators   -  Reputation: 5099

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 04:49 PM

Protocol ID has nothing to do with "security" or "trust." It has to do with telling apples from oranges.
There are a few cases where you want to easily be able to tell your specific protocol packets from other UDP packets on the wire:

1) Someone might be sending UDP port-mapper packets, or other UDP packets, to your server. There might even be some other service that picks the same UDP port number, running on the same network. You wouldn't want the server software to process a packet you explicitly know is NOT formatted according to your protocol. Thus, these header bytes allow you to cheaply discard obviously unneeded packets.

2) You might want to sniff packets on a network, and quickly be able to tell your protocol packets apart from other packets that may also go on the network. This lets you apply a simple filter in Wireshark etc and easily make sure you're only looking at "important" packets. You could even take it a step further, and write a protocol detector/analyzer plug-in that would decode the packets for you when it saw those header bytes.

3) You might want to update the protocol version later, and prevent incompatible versions of the game from speaking to each other (to avoid crashes and almost-work problems.) Just bump your protocol magic number by 1 when you make an incompatible change, and you get that level of versioning for "free."

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#7 savail   Members   -  Reputation: 332

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 08:18 AM

alright, thanks everybody for help!

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 02:40 PM

Even with the ID in there, the packet can be spoofed pretty easily if that's what you're worried about. "Oh, it's passing this DWORD around, I'll just pass the same one". I'm not sure if security is what you're worried about?

If it's just to make sure you're talking to the right machine, why not simply challenge up front and leave it be?




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