Oh! More great feedback. I haven't really experimented with the use of acoustics (or I have, but I never paid any mind to it). I think if I worked around with it more, I could get an idea of what would be the best place, or at least get good ideas of where I should record if I want a particular type of sound. I'll also take the 60hz method and use it to see what results it yields.
Thanks a ton! I've never heard of the sweet spot theory, so I will definitely try that and see what comes up. To be honest, I usually have my mic facing the sound hole on my guitar, and I have never thought of moving it up the fret. I would think that there may be different places you can put the mic to perhaps get a little more bass, or treble, picked up in the recording. It seems that this will be another thing I have to experiment with. Another thing, in your first track, you have electric guitars that come in after the acoustic intro. Any advice on recording electric guitars? I have an electric, ad I record using the UX1. Do you record by using the microphone method in front of the amp? (I really liked the second song. The harmonies in the vocals were nice)
Also, I am using a steel string! I'm actually very happy with Jagger (yes, I named my instrument). I think I should invest in a new acoustic/electric soon, but he will definitely be one I keep around. I like the intimate sound I get from my Epiphone. Oh, how I want (and will have), a nylon string.
LOL - The "Sweet Spot Theory" is something I just made up- mileage may vary. It works for me but there are lots of approaches I've heard people use. I do like getting the mic very close to the fretboard though. Some folks like an over the shoulder technique also (putting the mic up by the player's ear), but I don't dig that as much - but it could be due to my recording constraints as much as any. I do think you'll like some sounds somewhere other than the soundhole though.
It was a long time ago when I recorded that (maybe around 2000), but I think it was signal going through a Rocktron Voodoo Valve effects processor, to 12" speaker, into probably an SM57 up near the grill of the speaker. I can't tell much difference between amping rock guitar to the side or angled or at edge of cone, but alot of guys try different placements. Edge of cone is supposed to be softer than middle of cone. Turn mic angle a bit to change things a bit. I've never really spent much time on micing guitar amps though. I might move a mic up closer or farther away - but it doesn't seem that hard to pick up the sound if it sounds right coming out of the speaker.
I normally doubled (played them twice) rhythm guitar tracks in those days and panned one fairly hard left and one fairly hard right and that often made a big difference in the rock styles I liked, but it's easy to get too thick if that's not the sound you're going for. I relistened to that tune last night when I posted the link and was a little surprised at the electric guitar sound because I have only been playing through tube amps more recently and love them (the small heads like Blackstar, Blackheart, and Nighttrain), and my ears hear and expect things differently now. Back in the 80s when I was growing up the FX processors were more utilized as part of the more processed rock sound and that influenced my tone - but it's definitely different than a more simple tubey tone that I appreciate now that I'm older.
One thing I will say is don't think expensive equipment is necessary. You can spend fortunes on guitars and amps - but so much is the player and the fingers.
I haven't tried any of of the direct line in boxes like the PODs recently, but alot of folks like them. I went with a friend who was recording a country demo in a studio and the steel guitar player was running directly through a POD into the board - and it sounded great. The only thing that wasn't direct was the acoustic guitar player who was miced. So direct input devices might be the way to go now - but I gave up on them years ago once I fell in love with tubes.
edit: one more thing - yes - on acoustic - I agree with other posts - try rolling off the low frequencies with EQ - especially when you have an acoustic guitar in a denser mix. It doesn't matter much when it's just a simple mix where there's room for everything - but making an acoustic guitar stand out in a thicker mix is hard and cutting out the mud down low can help (I think it helps the compressor too).
Edited by fartheststar, 16 October 2012 - 05:28 PM.