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Sorry if this is a stupid question. What would it take to get DirectX on Linux?


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#21 Gavin Williams   Members   -  Reputation: 591

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 12:52 PM

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#22 MrDaaark   Members   -  Reputation: 3535

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 02:12 PM

I find this thread a bit hilarious.

My Win7 box goes from me turning it on to the desktop in less than 10 seconds. Where is this bloat you speak of? I wish my other devices, and even Ubuntu (when I had it installed) booted up that fast. There was an initiative about a decade ago now where Microsoft and their OEM partners set the goal of getting quick boot times. They wanted it to be under 45 seconds, and then keep working from there. It was very successful, and your average machine should boot up near instantaneously now.

Direct3D exists because Microsoft wanted to push 3D graphics capabilities forward on their platform. Similar to how every other platform had customized some chips and APIs to give their platform an edge. It was very successful. It has nothing to do with OpenGL, or any bullshit conspiracies and pretend API wars. They don't care what API you use for anything. They have just provided a very good one to make developing games on their platform very attractive.

Linux is a complete failure as a general purpose desktop OS. It doesn't target people to want to sit down and use their computers to get work done. It targets people who use their computers to use a computer. All the user land software is crap that is cobbled together by hobbyists who often miss the point to begin with, and everything is always being broken and forked or being held hostage by warring camps of zealot developers.

People who value their time and have shit to do want to push a button and have something happen, and then move on with doing their work, and not have to follow 32 pages of instructions written by a rude 300lbs manboy.

So no one really gives a shit about producing anything of value for the Linux desktop.

#23 abcdef44   Banned   -  Reputation: 2

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 12:44 AM

@ Daaark: Yes but very outdated thinking. I thought once alike, but since I've lost all data back on Windows98, I use Linux without any problems at all.
Linux was a mess but it's getting better. I wish more LSB stuff alike: http://www.google.com/intl/de/earth/download/ge/agree.html
will come in and the next logical step would be a common package for all Linux forks.
Ubuntu is not only booting faster then Windows 8, even games are running faster. My X-Plane 10 is ~ 60 FPS on Linux but only 50 on Windows 8 with a GTX 460!

And no, there's good stuff coming for Linux alike: http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/

#24 Butabee   Members   -  Reputation: 205

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 05:16 AM

Wine already does a pretty good job of playing DX games on Linux. I wouldn't try to create a whole new library for that, I'd try helping with wine instead.

The biggest problem with Linux gaming is the GPU driver performance.

#25 MrDaaark   Members   -  Reputation: 3535

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 11:11 AM

@ Daaark: Yes but very outdated thinking. I thought once alike, but since I've lost all data back on Windows98, I use Linux without any problems at all.
Linux was a mess but it's getting better. I wish more LSB stuff alike: http://www.google.co...d/ge/agree.html
will come in and the next logical step would be a common package for all Linux forks.
Ubuntu is not only booting faster then Windows 8, even games are running faster. My X-Plane 10 is ~ 60 FPS on Linux but only 50 on Windows 8 with a GTX 460!

And no, there's good stuff coming for Linux alike: http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/


What does this have to do with anything? I've seen that stuff since the mid 90s. The only thing that ever changes with Linux is the date and the names.

while(1)
{
"oh, things are getting better, just you wait and see"
}

I'l tell you what is in Desktop's Linux future. The community is going to get mad and turn on whatever the next thing in the Linux World is that looks like it can gain any traction. Then they will sabotage it somehow. Then we start over with someone else wanting to finally get it right, and they'll release a new distro with a new garish color scheme, then The community is going to get mad and turn on whatever the n....etc,etc,etc

Linux on the desktop is like alchemy in the old days. You take/raise money from naive people, promise the moon, and deliver nothing. Then you keep making excuses and new promises to keep milking cash until you need to move on to the next naive person.

If you lost all your data, you should have had backups. That's a user issue, not an OS issue. And even then, usually a hardware failure issue. Any computing device, at any time, regardless of OS or hardware configuration, can lose your data at any time.

#26 MJP   Moderators   -  Reputation: 8869

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 05:43 PM

Well I think this thread has run its course in terms of actually discussing technical issues regarding using DirectX on Linux. If you guys would like to continue discussing Linux and Windows, feel free to start a new thread in the lounge.




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