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#1 Cornstalks   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 6966

Posted 26 February 2013 - 12:18 PM

When I tried posting this post, it ate everything after my code block when I posted it. I had to make several edits to get the stuff back in after the code block.

 

When I tried posting this post, everything after the last code block was eaten and I had to edit it to get that stuff after the last code block back in (luckily I was prepared for this and had copied my post before I hit the "Post" button).

 

Honestly, we (and apparently others using the same forum software) have so many problems with this crappy editor it's ridiculous. I wish we had something like StackOverflow. Their editor provides minimal functionality but everything you need. No WYSIWYG editor (but it gives you a live preview, which is, IMO better), no crappy list of fonts (seriously? Comic Sans?), etc. Their editor is lean, quick, and stable.

 

We don't have to use the same markup as SO, but honestly, this editor is pure crap. Adding features isn't what makes a good editor. Stability and robustness is what makes it a good editor.


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#2 Cornstalks   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 6966

Posted 18 March 2013 - 09:43 PM

Please? Anyone? This keeps happening. If I post a code block but write text below my code block, it disappears and I have to re-edit to replace the text back in after the code block.


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#3 Michael Tanczos   Senior Staff   -  Reputation: 5148

Posted 19 March 2013 - 07:36 AM

My rage for this editor knows no bounds.   I have experienced what you are describing as well..  IPS is pretty much refactoring their whole suite, which is an interesting response to a problem with the editor.   I just hope they keep patching the problems with it or make the new version pluggable so we can swap it out.



#4 Alpha_ProgDes   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 4680

Posted 19 March 2013 - 08:45 AM

I'm having a Teal'c moment here. "I do not understand." Why is the editor eating up my < ul > tags?! Why?! I saved it 5 times and every time it ate up the tags! What manner of sorcery is this?

 

And why doesn't the < p > tags cause a space between paragraphs? I don't have to actually put a < br > inbetween them do I?


Edited by Alpha_ProgDes, 19 March 2013 - 08:47 AM.

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#5 Kylotan   Moderators   -  Reputation: 3329

Posted 19 March 2013 - 10:26 AM

The editor is fundamentally flawed in its design, which you can see by the fact that it double encodes things - eg. The [ quote ] tags work both in the rich edit mode and in the BBCode mode. And once you start double encoding things it means the editor must be making guesses about what is valid to encode and what is not, and guaranteeing a lossless round-trip between the raw and the rich modes becomes impossible. With this in mind, you have to expect corruption to occur when you perform edits as there is no single canonical representation of any given piece of text.

 

So I pretty much treat the editor as actively hostile. The safest route is just to switch it to the BBCode mode with the button at the top left and enter everything the old-fashioned way.

 

Test: quote tags used from rich edit mode



#6 Hodgman   Moderators   -  Reputation: 27879

Posted 19 March 2013 - 06:25 PM

I've had the "everything after the code tag is deleted" issue quite a few times too... Very infuriating.

When using the WYSIWYG editor, I've taken to switching into raw mode and back again, which lets the local JavaScript mangle your syntax before sending it to the server, because there seems to be more bugs on the server's end (like, deleting half my posts)...

#7 Hodgman   Moderators   -  Reputation: 27879

Posted 19 March 2013 - 06:25 PM

I've had the "everything after the code tag is deleted" issue quite a few times too... Very infuriating.

When using the WYSIWYG editor, I've taken to switching into raw mode and back again, which lets the local JavaScript mangle your syntax before sending it to the server, because there seems to be more bugs on the server's end (like, deleting half my posts)...

#8 Hodgman   Moderators   -  Reputation: 27879

Posted 19 March 2013 - 06:25 PM

[edit] how fitting... In a thread about half-missing posts, my complaint gets double posted!

#9 Cornstalks   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 6966

Posted 19 March 2013 - 06:56 PM

[edit] how fitting... In a thread about half-missing posts, my complaint gets double posted!

I think the forum software knew you were talking about it, so it decided to double post your comment just in case it lost one of them...
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