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#1 Bamcee   Members   -  Reputation: 104

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 01:54 PM

Ok before I start I just want to say that I am a new member and I hope everyone is friendly.

Also there are probably thousands of threads like this, but I need some undivided help.

 

Ok so every one of my school breaks are the same, I watch TV, Anime and play one game until I'm bored, but this summer I plan to do something that I can benefit from..sorta.

 

Well I would like to make a game engine where I can basically put 3d models in, walk around and kill stuff in a kinda 3rd person look down view (can't explain that well) and have a battle system where you can lock on to enemies and block,dodge,attack use specials etc, with simple fog,water,flame effects and possibly electricity.. It can be like basic low poly models and shouldn't require an expensive computer to play.

 

P.S. and if someone can possibly teach me how to make a nice hud like in LoL or DotA etc

 

Videos and articles would be nice, I have decent experience with Blender.



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#2 Dawoodoz   Members   -  Reputation: 290

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 02:18 PM

That is possible to do with my graphics engine with skills in Visual Basic or C# and linear algebra. I can help you to get started in exchange for feedback about bugs and the user experience.


My open source DirectX 10/11 graphics engine. https://sites.google.com/site/dawoodoz

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#3 Bamcee   Members   -  Reputation: 104

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 02:31 PM

Sure I guess, once its not a massive download



#4 Dawoodoz   Members   -  Reputation: 290

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 03:55 PM

Sure I guess, once its not a massive download

 

Only 14 MB.


My open source DirectX 10/11 graphics engine. https://sites.google.com/site/dawoodoz

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#5 warnexus   Prime Members   -  Reputation: 1385

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 09:01 PM

The reality is that if you are just starting out which specifically means delving into programming. You start with the basics of programming: general programming. You can think of general programming like training wheels on a bike. Once you got the basics down, you can remove the training wheels and start delving into graphics and start really riding a bike.

 

If you learn without the training wheels, you are going to find programming a lot harder than it is. 

 

All I can say is practice with the basics. It will save you a lot of pain and frustration. Trust me. I had your mentality 2 years ago.

 

Besides, you should just use an existing engine and not re-invent the wheel. The effects you mention is computer graphics which involves linear algebra and a fluency in a programming language.

 

The misconception is that beginners wants to "I want to make "insert AAA game" here" before learning the simple stuff. It's going to take time and patience and dedication to even make an arcade shooter including having the fundamentals down of a language. 



#6 Khatharr   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 2871

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 11:07 PM

Where do I start?

 

The beginners forum. (This was originally posted in the General forum.)


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#7 metsfan   Members   -  Reputation: 653

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 11:40 PM

Where do you start?  Well that's a loaded question my friend.  What are your goals?  I think the first question you need to ask yourself is the following:  Do you want to make a game engine, or a game?  The two are very different.  You talk about wanting to create an application where you can load 3D models, "walk around" (which I assume means you want animation), and a "battle system where you can kill things".  The first two parts, fall in the domain of game engines, the latter part in the realm of games.  You don't necessarily HAVE to make your own engine, but if you do, you're in for a ride.  

 

If you want to build an engine:

The first thing you need to do though, is learn the graphics pipeline.  You aren't getting anywhere until you understand how 3D graphics applications work.  There are many places to learn this: books, this forum, internet tutorials, ect.  One of the biggest mistakes I made early on was just wanting to "see something on the screen", without understanding why or how it got there.  I did lots of copying and pasting from tutorials until I got something there, but once I did, I couldn't make the changes I wanted because I never really understand what I was working in.  Learn how the 3D graphics world works, then worry about getting models to show up, and animate.

 

If you just want to build a game:

Find yourself a nice, free open source engine.  There are a few choices out there, and a quick search of this forum or google should yield you some useful results   Once you get the hang for using this engine, you should be able to load your models, and then you can start programming your game logic.   However, before you just dive in and start making a mess, I strongly suggest you learn about application development, particularly how to separate your view logic from your application logic.  This will save you a ton of time in the long run.  

 

I don't know how much of this information will be useful to you, but I hope you take one thing away from what i've said:  Making games is hard, and making game engines is even harder.  The hardest part isn't even writing the code, it's planning it in such a way that you create flexible systems, and it's about understanding the systems you're working with so that you can create new systems through understanding, not trial and error.  Good luck.



#8 bakshadow   Members   -  Reputation: 149

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 04:09 PM

Without knowing how experienced you are at programming (im going to guess fairly new) but creating a graphics engine requires a whole lot of work, prior knowledge and experience (in my opinion).  If you're interested in making a game and using a graphics engine I would recommend jmonkey with your blender background.  All the added functions you want out of your graphics engine you could add into jmonkey, that would make some good coding projects to get better familiar with the engine and how it works.  Which ever you decide to do though best of luck.  Was your camera view a top down perspective?



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Posted 09 April 2013 - 12:46 PM

well....you can see here http://www.gamefromscratch.com/post/2011/08/04/I-want-to-be-a-game-developer.aspx biggrin.png


I know: C,C++,C# and a bit LUA.





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