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#1 Shaquil   Members   -  Reputation: 815

Posted 14 April 2013 - 03:55 PM

At the risk of sounding as stupid as I am, I'd like to ask for some ideas, if you guys have any. My goal is to move to San Francisco and see what life is like in Silicon Valley. Not tomorrow, but as soon as I can. The barriers are pretty common: No relatives, jobs, or potential places to stay once I get there. Yet as a programmer, I can't help but think "There's definitely a solution." Off the top of my head, I know from my background in literature that some organizations will grant winners of writing contests fellowships--basically you get an expenses paid stay at some university somewhere and hang out with other writers while you create your opus. Maybe there's something similar for programmers that can send me somewhere in California? I was also thinking there might be internships? My lack of many good ideas is why I'm posting here in the first place. Off the top of your head, do you know of any programs/organizations sending people from the East Coast to the West?



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#2 ChaosEngine   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 2499

Posted 14 April 2013 - 04:06 PM

I'm not understanding the problem.

 

Instead of focusing on some "organisation sending people to the west", why not just do some research on companies you'd like to work for in SF, apply for job, repeat until successful?


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#3 Shaquil   Members   -  Reputation: 815

Posted 14 April 2013 - 04:50 PM

I don't want to work for anyone.

 

In case anyone else is interested, there's the National Student Exchange for university students. But I think your university has to be an official participating member. Here's the list of schools you can transfer to for a semester or full academic year:

 

http://www.nse.org/exchange/alpha_cam.asp

 

Just hit Ctrl + F, and type in California. The average cost of a semester I've seen is about $2,600 or so. That's half the cost of being a commuter at my University, so it seems like a good deal, if the school is right for you.



#4 j-locke   Members   -  Reputation: 822

Posted 14 April 2013 - 05:28 PM

I don't want to work for anyone.

 

I think some better advice may come out if we understand the situation a little better. So you're currently a college student in America and you'd like to go to San Francisco for a temporary amount of time?



#5 slicer4ever   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 3979

Posted 14 April 2013 - 07:37 PM

If you have no intent of working there, then why do you want to go there? What exactly do you expect to happen once you are there?
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#6 Tom Sloper   Moderators   -  Reputation: 10148

Posted 14 April 2013 - 08:51 PM

I was also thinking there might be internships?

Sure. You get an internship the same way you get a job:
1. Be qualified, and local
2. Apply
3. Hope the stars are lined up for you

Instead of focusing on some "organisation sending people to the west", why not just do some research on companies you'd like to work for in SF, apply for job, repeat until successful?

Because he has to be local first. Nobody gives entry-level jobs to non-locals. I've written about this at http://www.igda.org/games-game-july-2010


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#7 Khatharr   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 3036

Posted 14 April 2013 - 11:18 PM

Ways to Get to California

 

According to the Golden-State Tourism Board, the appropriate means of entry is as follows:

 

1) Go to Nevada.

2) Get yourself an eight-ball and a forty.

3) ???

4) Wake up in a tool-shed in South Central next to a male prostitute dressed as Santa Claus.


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#8 cowsarenotevil   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 2099

Posted 15 April 2013 - 07:05 AM

Because he has to be local first. Nobody gives entry-level jobs to non-locals.

 

I know a lot of people for whom this was decidedly not the case.


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#9 JTippetts   Moderators   -  Reputation: 8647

Posted 15 April 2013 - 07:09 AM


Ways to Get to California

 
According to the Golden-State Tourism Board, the appropriate means of entry is as follows:
 
1) Go to Nevada.
2) Get yourself an eight-ball and a forty.
3) ???
4) Wake up in a tool-shed in South Central next to a male prostitute dressed as Santa Claus.


I lol-ed.

#10 smr   GDNet+   -  Reputation: 1681

Posted 15 April 2013 - 09:28 AM

Save up some money, I'd say at least $5,000. You're going to need at least enough money to get you through a couple of months without pay, and to set an amount aside to get you home if your plan doesn't work out.

 

Before you go, find a place to stay. Use craigslist to find a home already looking for a roommate. Be as discerning as you can possibly be. Make sure they are aware and OK with it being a short-term situation (potentially). Try to establish a video call with the roommate(s) before you make a final decision. Hopefully they can do it from within the apartment/house and could maybe give you a remote tour.

 

Give them your money.

 

Change your address with the post office and any non-sensitive accounts so that you might have some mail waiting for you at the new address when you arrive. This will help you prove your local residence to employers.

 

Line up some job interviews. Internships are good, but have a fallback plan -- apply for some restaurant/service industry jobs. Anything that pays. Unless you've got rich relatives who are going to support you, or you are sitting on a pile of inherited money, you're going to need an income. Best to accept this now. It's expensive to live in SF. Living far from family and friends can introduce unexpected expenses, not to mention just the cost of the occasional visit home. My brother lives just 180 miles north in Chicago and is in a perpetual state of brokedness. He works and has three roommates, but still has a hard time coming up with enough money to cover the travel expense and lost wages from visiting home. SF is even more expensive than Chicago.

 

Move to SF. Don't take more with you than you can get back on your own in a hurry.

 

Get an updated ID card with the new address. Change any sensitive accounts to this new address (credit cards, student loans, etc.)

 

If you burn through your cash to the point where all you can afford is to move back, then that's the time to move back. Don't stay any longer than that. If you can't afford to return, then you're gonna have a bad time. You will stress over being broke. You won't have money to eat. Your new roommates will resent you not paying your way and being a mooch. That is until they evict you, then you're really screwed. Leave when you can still afford it and try again later, after you've saved up even more money than you had before and have a provable, marketable skill.

 

Source: Someone who did it wrong.


Edited by smr, 15 April 2013 - 09:29 AM.


#11 BladeOfWraith   Members   -  Reputation: 245

Posted 15 April 2013 - 02:56 PM

According to the Golden-State Tourism Board, the appropriate means of entry is as follows:
 
1) Go to Nevada.
2) Get yourself an eight-ball and a forty.
3) ???
4) Wake up in a tool-shed in South Central next to a male prostitute dressed as Santa Claus.

Lol.

An alternative:

 

1. Find a fat girl who lives in SF and go hit on her on FB. 

2. Tell her she's beautiful and you love her.

3. Suggest you move in with her.

4. Tell her you're a virgin and saving yourself for marriage(so you don't have to do stuff with her).


"You can't say no to waffles" - Toxic Hippo


#12 Shaquil   Members   -  Reputation: 815

Posted 15 April 2013 - 03:55 PM

If you have no intent of working there, then why do you want to go there? What exactly do you expect to happen once you are there?

 

Not to sound like an ass, but these are the questions I'm not interested in answering. Like I said, if you guys have any tips/ideas on getting there, then that'd be much appreciated. But I don't need advice on whether it's the right decision. No matter what we talk about, it's ultimately up to me.

 

I don't want to work for anyone.

 

I think some better advice may come out if we understand the situation a little better. So you're currently a college student in America and you'd like to go to San Francisco for a temporary amount of time?

 

 

You're right. Sorry about that. I'm willing to go for a temporary amount of time, but I'd prefer to stay there. I'd rather go on some "paid internship" or "fellowship" or student exchange program, because then I'll have housing for a time period, and a chance to figure out whether it's feasible to stay down there. The thing that's going to sound retarded to most is that I don't want a job. If that's the only option, I won't go. The hardest part right now is just finding a way to get over there for even a limited time. But other than the student exchange stuff I linked to above, I haven't found many helpful things. If I come across more stuff, I'll post it for future readers.



#13 BladeOfWraith   Members   -  Reputation: 245

Posted 16 April 2013 - 03:19 PM

If you're just interested in visiting the area, might I suggest Couchsurfing?


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