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#1 ysg   Members   -  Reputation: 192

Posted 15 April 2013 - 03:32 PM

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2013/04/15/explosions-near-finish-of-boston-marathon/?hpt=hp_t1

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#2 Prinz Eugn   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 3678

Posted 15 April 2013 - 05:45 PM

Very sad. Seems a lot like the 1996 Olympic Park bombings at first glance.


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#3 ApochPiQ   Moderators   -  Reputation: 16391

Posted 15 April 2013 - 05:49 PM

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#4 ysg   Members   -  Reputation: 192

Posted 15 April 2013 - 06:46 PM

Very sad. Seems a lot like the 1996 Olympic Park bombings at first glance.

Yes. It seems that whoever planned this, they were out to maim. Reports are coming in that doctors are pulling ball-bearings out of people in hospitals.

#5 radioteeth   Prime Members   -  Reputation: 1136

Posted 15 April 2013 - 08:07 PM

The rate we've been going, this is just the beginning of the next generation's everyday life.



#6 Hodgman   Moderators   -  Reputation: 31798

Posted 15 April 2013 - 08:19 PM

Very sad.

It will be interesting to see who was behind it and what they wanted to achieve by pipe-bombing a crowd... Terrorism by definition has to have some kind of perceived purpose -- even that nutjob in Norway thought he would effect some kind of political change with his massacre -- otherwise it's not terrorism, it's just a random act of violence (like Columbine).



#7 ApochPiQ   Moderators   -  Reputation: 16391

Posted 15 April 2013 - 08:23 PM

Very sad.
It will be interesting to see who was behind it and what they wanted to achieve by pipe-bombing a crowd... Terrorism by definition has to have some kind of perceived purpose -- even that nutjob in Norway thought he would effect some kind of political change with his massacre -- otherwise it's not terrorism, it's just a random act of violence (like Columbine).

Please take steps to ensure that the US government adopts your definition of "terrorism." The one they're using is a little bit broken.

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 08:29 PM

Pretty sad, but I'm more worried about the countries the USofA will nuke for it.


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#9 Prinz Eugn   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 3678

Posted 15 April 2013 - 08:38 PM

Pretty sad, but I'm more worried about the countries the USofA will nuke for it.

 

Eh, I think it's more likely it's a crazed loner of either the domestic (Oklahoma City) or foreign (2010 Times Square attempt) variety.


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#10 Sik_the_hedgehog   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 1833

Posted 15 April 2013 - 10:56 PM

I think he means the US government may try to use it as an excuse to start more wars. We'll have to see.


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#11 ChaosEngine   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 2499

Posted 15 April 2013 - 11:04 PM

The rate we've been going, this is just the beginning of the next generation's everyday life.

 

Not really. Despite what the media tells you, statistically, we are living in the safest time in human history.

 

In real terms, the number of casualties by terrorism is barely significant. It was estimated that more people died by driving because they were afraid to fly than actually died in the planes on 9/11.

 

I'm not trying to belittle the awfulness of what happened in Boston. I grew up in Ireland during the 80s; I know what it's like. I just want to point out that we are not living in some awful age of terrorism, we're living in an age where we are now so safe that terrorism is news. 


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Posted 16 April 2013 - 11:03 AM

The rate we've been going, this is just the beginning of the next generation's everyday life.

You mean it wasn't this generation's everyday life?

 

I grew up in the UK in the 90's. The prospect of an IRA bombing was omnipresent - any day you took the subway, might be the day they hit again. You just didn't think about it too much, or your life would be crippled by anxiety.


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#13 ysg   Members   -  Reputation: 192

Posted 16 April 2013 - 11:08 AM


The rate we've been going, this is just the beginning of the next generation's everyday life.

 
Not really. Despite what the media tells you, statistically, we are living in the safest time in human history.
 
In real terms, the number of casualties by terrorism is barely significant. It was estimated that more people died by driving because they were afraid to fly than actually died in the planes on 9/11.
 
I'm not trying to belittle the awfulness of what happened in Boston. I grew up in Ireland during the 80s; I know what it's like. I just want to point out that we are not living in some awful age of terrorism, we're living in an age where we are now so safe that terrorism is news.


Not quite. Pipe-bombs (and terrorism in general) tended to make news all the time (not always world-wide), more so than violent crime or accidents (for example, from cars). Yes, we are now safer, but the logic in your statement is a tad off.

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 02:57 PM

Truthfully, my prediction is that they will make a big show of trying to track down a foreign angle, but ultimately blame will be levied on a home-grown, right-wing extremist, gun nut, (media reporting and official statements have already been trending this way) and that this will be used as fuel for pushing gun control legislation.

 

But maybe my tin-foil-hat is just a little too tight today. Time will tell.



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Posted 16 April 2013 - 04:26 PM

Supposedly the police had a Saudi national for questioning, but the police was denying it. But the news is still saying that the police had him. International politics?


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Posted 16 April 2013 - 04:28 PM

Supposedly the police had a Saudi national for questioning, but the police was denying it. But the news is still saying that the police had him. International politics?

I heard it was some really bad reporting. I guess we'll just have to wait and see exactly what's up.
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Posted 16 April 2013 - 04:32 PM

Supposedly the police had a Saudi national for questioning, but the police was denying it. But the news is still saying that the police had him. International politics?

I heard it was some really bad reporting. I guess we'll just have to wait and see exactly what's up.

 

Ah, I see. Damn you, Yahoo News!

 

I hope they figure out how this happen. Personally, at this moment in time, I think that's more important than why it happened.


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Posted 16 April 2013 - 04:40 PM

I hope they figure out how this happen. Personally, at this moment in time, I think that's more important than why it happened.

The only thing about "how" that I know is it was supposedly gunpowder and shrapnel in a pressure cooker, hidden in a backpack. I'm not sure if that was both bombs or just one of them. Linky. Here's a nice summary/list of what's known.

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 04:41 PM

Truthfully, my prediction is that they will make a big show of trying to track down a foreign angle, but ultimately blame will be levied on a home-grown, right-wing extremist, gun nut, (media reporting and official statements have already been trending this way) and that this will be used as fuel for pushing gun control legislation.
 
But maybe my tin-foil-hat is just a little too tight today. Time will tell.

Most likely, this. Doesn't matter who really did it; what matters is who will be first to use it for political leverage to promote their agenda.

My own tin-foil hat thinking has me wondering what new monstrosity of an executive order (to follow up the Monsanto ball-sucking they already did) the White House is going to slip in under the cover of all this racket. Might want to keep our ears open the next couple of Fridays.

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 04:57 PM

Truthfully, my prediction is that they will make a big show of trying to track down a foreign angle, but ultimately blame will be levied on a home-grown, right-wing extremist, gun nut, (media reporting and official statements have already been trending this way) and that this will be used as fuel for pushing gun control legislation.

 

But maybe my tin-foil-hat is just a little too tight today. Time will tell.

 

I tend to think you're right that it'll be used to push gun control, despite no guns being used in it.

Perhaps firework bans? Already done in some states (more for preventing accidental wildfires than terrorist attacks).

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Maybe they'll crack down on sales of nails and ball bearings so that only registered contractors can buy them.


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