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#1 AltarofScience   Members   -  Reputation: 933

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 12:53 AM

So as part of my current project I am creating an engine that can handle the character related tropes of role playing games. Notice I said character related. I have no interest in RPG combat or story lines because my engine is focused around RTS games. Not limited to, but the basics behind a game are intended to always include a map which you are trying to exercise real time control of.

 

There are countless examples of combat related rpg characterization to fall back on, improve on, iterate on but, its not so easy to look at successful implementations in the context of economics or trade or science.

 

Its also a little harder since it has to integrate in other systems in a way combat doesn't.

 

Basically I based my initial plan on crafting systems I've conceptualized for VOWs. I have to decide on a level of detail. I basically have 2 choices here. I can run a stat per resource or I can run one per field. I prefer resources, as a min maxer its more interesting, but it might be less memory intensive, for the player and the computer, to do fields like alchemy and cooking and so forth. Fields might also be better for size reasons. It might be nice to specialize in specific resources and processes to make specific potions to gain efficiency, but only if the map size is large enough to support a potion making structure for each kind. This can partially be offset by having labs functions as items, which have no corporeal 3D form, inside potion workshops. So you could have 4 labs per workshop. However you would still need a pool of educated citizens large enough to support a large number of potion makers.

 

Another issue I have is that time management wise it might be easier to run one guy doing all the potion skills instead of specializing. If my goal is to reduce micro it would be easier to run multiple projects under one guy who focuses on his field and not his specialty, instead of having several guys overseeing a smaller number of workers/projects.

 

Basically I feel like there is a sweet spot between how much control the player has and how much work is required to exercise it. I know that crafting works well at the field level from MMOs. So I have to decide if given all the other design risks I'm taking whether more granularity in production will pay off.



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Posted 23 April 2013 - 12:16 PM

can you give a description of your game ? thus far it s not even clear whether upgrades should belong to characters or buildings,or are you still trying to choose between the two ?

 

if anything, i wouldnt worry about processor-power over a formula, a decent computer should be able to make the necessary calculations all the time and show them to the player if/when the player wants to see them/needs to make a decision based off them



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Posted 23 April 2013 - 03:26 PM

can you give a description of your game ? thus far it s not even clear whether upgrades should belong to characters or buildings,or are you still trying to choose between the two ?

 

if anything, i wouldnt worry about processor-power over a formula, a decent computer should be able to make the necessary calculations all the time and show them to the player if/when the player wants to see them/needs to make a decision based off them

You can get character skill, with their mind and body parts, bonuses from tools, and bonuses from facilities, all applied to the basic quality of a resource and a type of item, ie chain vs plate.



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Posted 24 April 2013 - 09:58 PM

So what exactly is the question?

 

Are you doing a kind of system where your unit's skills, etc., are maintained from one map to the next? Or is everything self-contained in one map?


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Posted 26 April 2013 - 12:09 PM

are you only making an engine that could be used for one or more games or are you designing a game and is the engine just the first part of it ?

anyway, what i would do, is have minions/basic workers that can level up to work faster and project-leaders that can learn new skills(new potions)

a workshop should just be big enough to accomodate X workers, although there is no reason why a workshop shouldn't influence efficiëncy as well






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