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Need scary sound effects or creepy audio loops for your next horror-themed game? Check out Highscore Vol.3 - The Horror Edition in our marketplace. 50 sounds and 10 loops for only $9.99! # Petition for the White House: Perpetual Motion Machines Old topic! Guest, the last post of this topic is over 60 days old and at this point you may not reply in this topic. If you wish to continue this conversation start a new topic. 19 replies to this topic ### #1Mastermind89 Members - Reputation: 126 Posted 01 May 2013 - 10:11 PM People around the world, My name is Noah Bangs. I have set up a petition for the white house on petitions.whitehouse.gov, because I have discovered the cold, hard truth about energy companies. Back in the 1800's, Russian inventor Nikola Tesla found a way to use perpetual motion to generate infinite, clean energy. But, greedy energy companies shunned this invention because they were afraid of losing profit. Money isn't everything, though. If this petition reaches the president or congress, we could see a huge change in the world today. Cars that don't require fuel, more businesses and enterprises, clear ozone, etc. We could literally eliminate electricity bills forever. Sign and share this petition if you agree. https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/advocate-use-perpetual-motion-machines-good-earth/WrKck0M2 Noah Bangs Sponsor: ### #2Hodgman Moderators - Reputation: 19225 Posted 01 May 2013 - 10:16 PM [Citation needed] ### #3szecs Members - Reputation: 1858 Posted 01 May 2013 - 10:34 PM Tesla wasn't Russian. ### #4ChaosEngine Crossbones+ - Reputation: 1552 Posted 01 May 2013 - 10:49 PM He's right. I saw it here. if you think programming is like sex, you probably haven't done much of either.-------------- - capn_midnight ### #5slicer4ever Crossbones+ - Reputation: 2203 Posted 01 May 2013 - 11:07 PM can we just ban this guy already? Check out https://www.facebook.com/LiquidGames for some great games made by me on the Playstation Mobile market. ### #6Prinz Eugn Crossbones+ - Reputation: 3122 Posted 01 May 2013 - 11:17 PM can we just ban this guy already? Shhhhh... everyone knows that the first law of thermodynamics just doesn't understand people with autism-spectrum disorders. -Mark the Artist Digital Art and Technical Design Developer Journal ### #7Cornstalks Crossbones+ - Reputation: 6807 Posted 01 May 2013 - 11:22 PM I'm sure someone else could've come up with some better ones... [ I was ninja'd 71 times before I stopped counting a long time ago ] [ f.k.a. MikeTacular ] [ My Blog ] [ SWFer: Gaplessly looped MP3s in your Flash games ] ### #8szecs Members - Reputation: 1858 Posted 01 May 2013 - 11:25 PM Shit, you are maybe right. Shit, I think he or it is actually that Raspberry guy with the beard and that Anastasia Russian person. Thing. ### #9Oberon_Command Crossbones+ - Reputation: 1577 Posted 01 May 2013 - 11:38 PM Shit, you are maybe right. Shit, I think he or it is actually that Raspberry guy with the beard and that Anastasia Russian person. Thing. ### #10legend911 Members - Reputation: 114 Posted 03 May 2013 - 09:39 AM Mind showing us the model of this perpetual motion machine? ### #11The_Neverending_Loop Members - Reputation: 532 Posted 03 May 2013 - 09:49 AM but you'll break the universe!!! ### #12Dragonsoulj Crossbones+ - Reputation: 1732 Posted 03 May 2013 - 09:52 AM Don't get me wrong, cleaner, cheaper energy would be great. However, do you know why we can't have a perpetual motion machine? This has it gathered nicely, even if it is wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion_machine ### #13Waterlimon Crossbones+ - Reputation: 1701 Posted 03 May 2013 - 10:01 AM No thank you, ill go with the ads selling super efficient solar panel kits energy companies want to hide. The lack of awesome free resource gathering building sandbox games capable of running an user made 8 bit computer in the world disturbs me. ### #14Milcho Crossbones+ - Reputation: 1159 Posted 03 May 2013 - 10:17 AM can we just ban this guy already? Shhhhh... everyone knows that the first law of thermodynamics just doesn't understand people with autism-spectrum disorders. If I remember correctly (after a brief google of Tesla's claims), his supposed discovery was a perpetual motion of the 2nd kind, which doesn't violate the First law of thermodynamics (meaning the law of conservation of energy is not violated) However, it does violate the more subtle, yet equally strict and valid Second law of thermodynamics - meaning that you cannot extract energy from a system in thermal equilibrium. No one should be banned strictly for advocating physically impossible things, but be informed of why these things are impossible. In this case, reading about Tesla's proposal and the laws of Thermodynamics is a good start. ### #15Luckless Crossbones+ - Reputation: 1266 Posted 03 May 2013 - 10:38 AM Also, don't confuse improbable with impossible. The "laws" of physics were written by men looking at shadows, and thinking they understood what is actually going on. Too many "scientists" these days take it on faith that their science is correct, perfect, and there is no way it will ever be proven wrong, invalid, or somehow mistaken. It is entirely possible that the laws of thermodynamics are actually mostly bogus under some set of conditions, and that a nearly unlimited amount of useful energy can be extracted for use by humans by some simple and cheap means. While it is most likely so improbable as to be nearly impossible, we should not simple assume it is completely impossible and then go bury our heads in the sand while putting zero effort toward exploring such ideas and seeking solutions. (But yeah, OP seems like a troll or nutter. Not sure which.) Old Username: Talroth If your signature on a web forum takes up more space than your average post, then you are doing things wrong. ### #16slicer4ever Crossbones+ - Reputation: 2203 Posted 03 May 2013 - 10:41 AM can we just ban this guy already? Shhhhh... everyone knows that the first law of thermodynamics just doesn't understand people with autism-spectrum disorders. If I remember correctly (after a brief google of Tesla's claims), his supposed discovery was a perpetual motion of the 2nd kind, which doesn't violate the First law of thermodynamics (meaning the law of conservation of energy is not violated) However, it does violate the more subtle, yet equally strict and valid Second law of thermodynamics - meaning that you cannot extract energy from a system in thermal equilibrium. No one should be banned strictly for advocating physically impossible things, but be informed of why these things are impossible. In this case, reading about Tesla's proposal and the laws of Thermodynamics is a good start. I did not suggest he be banned for this post alone, but his posting history comes down to pretty much spam, or attention getting posts. and has made no indication to change that behavior. Check out https://www.facebook.com/LiquidGames for some great games made by me on the Playstation Mobile market. ### #17JTippetts Moderators - Reputation: 6652 Posted 03 May 2013 - 10:47 AM Provide infinite energy for all the earth (and remove wrinkles and reverse aging as well) using this one neat trick that power companies hate. ### #18Milcho Crossbones+ - Reputation: 1159 Posted 03 May 2013 - 11:02 AM Also, don't confuse improbable with impossible. The "laws" of physics were written by men looking at shadows, and thinking they understood what is actually going on. Too many "scientists" these days take it on faith that their science is correct, perfect, and there is no way it will ever be proven wrong, invalid, or somehow mistaken. It is entirely possible that the laws of thermodynamics are actually mostly bogus under some set of conditions, and that a nearly unlimited amount of useful energy can be extracted for use by humans by some simple and cheap means. While it is most likely so improbable as to be nearly impossible, we should not simple assume it is completely impossible and then go bury our heads in the sand while putting zero effort toward exploring such ideas and seeking solutions. (But yeah, OP seems like a troll or nutter. Not sure which.) In a general case of a non-specific scientific theory, I'd roughly agree with you. In the case of the laws of thermodynamics, you can put all the effort you like, it's still going to be impossible. There's cases that the ever-increasing entropy can be shown to be reversed (by pure chance interactions), but these cases are so improbable, that if you waited longer than the universe's lifetime, you'd never see such a case. It gets worse the larger the entropy reversal you expect to see. I don't define that as 'improbable' because it's not. It's pretty much the definition of impossible. ### #19Oolala Members - Reputation: 547 Posted 03 May 2013 - 12:03 PM I seriously cannot tell you how proud I am right now of my home country [United States] that this incredibly stupid petition only has a single signature, which I suspect belongs to the author. I'm not the nationalist type, but this is worth being proud of. ### #20Servant of the Lord Crossbones+ - Reputation: 12493 Posted 03 May 2013 - 12:15 PM Provide infinite energy for all the earth (and remove wrinkles and reverse aging as well) using this one neat trick that power companies hate. If you live in <insert your area here>, you can get in on the ground floor of this energy revolution and make$6,452 a month using these simple stock trading rules that a single mother discovered from home in her spare time.

It's perfectly fine to abbreviate my username to 'Servant' rather than copy+pasting it all the time.

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