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#1 Tim Sarbin   Members   -  Reputation: 140

Posted 27 June 2013 - 07:13 PM

So for the first time in well over a year I'm a free man all weekend long with no kids and wife in the house. Since I work 4 10s this also means I have a full 3 day weekend. Incidentally, I've grown increasing active in streaming my Dwarf Fortress hobby (yes I run stonesense in the stream so mortals can understand what i'm doing). So I decided a while back that this will be the weekend I attempt a 24-hour dwarf fortress gaming marathon on Twitch. Being the computer nerd/researcher I am, I decided to read around and realized there's actually some pretty serious health concerns involved with this. The biggest thing I've read is that I should take a 10 minute break every hour to keep my heart/veins from imploding. Is there any suggestions for food/snacks/drinks that will help reduce the chance of dying while doing this?

 

I originally planned on getting a few 5 hour energy drinks, but I think instead a 6-pack of Gatorade and water may be a better choice.

 

 

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#2 mikeishere   Members   -  Reputation: 151

Posted 27 June 2013 - 07:22 PM

stay away from the caffeine as it will just make you crash eventually and feel like utter garbage

 

I would recommend standing up every now and then for circulation in your lower half

 

For snacks I recommend goldfish as they are my favorite :)

 

Other than that good luck and have fun



#3 TheChubu   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 4063

Posted 27 June 2013 - 08:01 PM

I read a while ago in the Nexus forums that the fiancee of a modder died after playing for 11 hours. A blood clot formed in his leg and two hours later she was dead.


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#4 HappyCoder   Members   -  Reputation: 2558

Posted 27 June 2013 - 08:35 PM


Brilliant. I think I will do a gaming marathon sometime this summer. I have been working nonstop for too long.

#5 Cyberbeastx   Members   -  Reputation: 104

Posted 27 June 2013 - 08:36 PM

Hello,

 

I would like to say that I may be new here but this attracted my eye right away. I can't relate job wise and not having enough time because I make money without leaving my home. Anyways, I normally spend on average 13-15 hours a day on my computer everyday for the past couple years. I take many breaks thought the day though. I  walk away from my computer 3-5 times a day to get food, 5-8 times for a cup of ice tea and at least 10 times a day to go outside to smoke a cigarette. I will say that within these few years of living this way I have yet to have any health issues at all. On a occasion if I am really motivated once a month I will pull a 72 hour marathon on my computer playing a game but like said before i get up for food, drinks, bathroom and smoke breaks. 

 

Other than gaining some weight(No I am not fat I will admit though I have went from 151 pounds to 219 pounds in a couple years) I have no health issues.

 

As far as food, I normally eat hot pockets, Tv Dinners and ramen. I snack on some chips here and there. I drink a cup of coffee every morning and drink ice tea and energy drinks through out the day.

 

I hope this help and if you have any questions feel free to ask!



#6 diventurer   Members   -  Reputation: 827

Posted 27 June 2013 - 08:40 PM

I read a while ago in the Nexus forums that the fiancee of a modder died after playing for 11 hours. A blood clot formed in his leg and two hours later she was dead.

That was most likely connected with another issue.

If you're not able to sit still for 11 hours without dying, something has to be wrong with you.

 

In today's world, A LOT of people sit still for up to 20+ hours gaming or doing some type of work.

 

Of course you have to go to the bathroom, drink a lot and maybe stretch once in a while, but you shouldn't DIE by sitting still for 11 hours.

I bet the woman who did this sat in a VERY odd position and didn't move at all for 11 hours. Even then it's weird!

 

Also, I agree with Cyberbeastx. That's kind of the point I wanted to get across actually.



#7 Servant of the Lord   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 18483

Posted 27 June 2013 - 09:16 PM

Personally, I'd schedule a 2-mile walk, or a 1 mile jog in the middle of your playing schedule. Take your dog with you, if you have one.

 

 

I read a while ago in the Nexus forums that the fiancee of a modder died after playing for 11 hours. A blood clot formed in his leg and two hours later she was dead.

 

Of course you have to go to the bathroom, drink a lot and maybe stretch once in a while, but you shouldn't DIE by sitting still for 11 hours.

I bet the woman who did this sat in a VERY odd position and didn't move at all for 11 hours. Even then it's weird!

 

Sounds like murder to me.

"I read a while ago in the Nexus forums that the fiancee of a modder died after playing for 11 hours. A blood clot formed in his leg and two hours later she was dead."

Very suspicious that she died, after he played for 11 hours. Doubly suspicious that she died two hours after a blood clot formed in his leg.

 

I mean, isn't that taking sympathetic pain to new levels?


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#8 Stormynature   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 2791

Posted 27 June 2013 - 09:59 PM


but you shouldn't DIE by sitting still for 11 hours.

 

Deep Vein Thrombosis

 

Inactivity and immobilization, as with orthopedic casts,[19]sitting, travel, bed rest, and hospitalization.

 

A few years ago this became somewhat sensationalised as media cottoned onto long distance flights being one way to acquire it.

 

 

Sitting will kill you

 

 

And the best article I know of that you should read for basic advice

 

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#9 Khaiy   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 1342

Posted 27 June 2013 - 10:05 PM

Any health concerns from this kind of thing are probably the kind that build up over time like repetitive stress injuries unless you spike your body with grams of caffeine. Sitting down for 24 hours is not a massive health risk.

 

I agree with the suggestions above, like take breaks every hour (at least two minutes, so you can rest your eyes by focusing on objects at varying distances). Movement is also good. If you want more gaming in your marathon session it might be fun to do a variation on Turing chess, especially since DF will progress in real time. Make sure to stretch your arms, wrists, and fingers at regular intervals and don't go straight from sitting to a strenuous activity without warming up a bit.

 

Avoid caffeine; in high doses it can have pretty negative effects. In any dose it will dehydrate you, which along with sitting and repetitive motion can give you muscle cramps and spasms. It can also exacerbate any heart or circulatory troubles you might have, even if you aren't currently aware of any. The same is true of energy drinks Gatorade isn't much better than any other sugary drink if you're not sweating for >30 minutes, but won't hurt you.

 

For food, go easy on salty items and be careful not to overeat.


Edited by Khaiy, 27 June 2013 - 10:07 PM.


#10 Tim Sarbin   Members   -  Reputation: 140

Posted 27 June 2013 - 10:13 PM

Any health concerns from this kind of thing are probably the kind that build up over time like repetitive stress injuries unless you spike your body with grams of caffeine. Sitting down for 24 hours is not a massive health risk.

 

I agree with the suggestions above, like take breaks every hour (at least two minutes, so you can rest your eyes by focusing on objects at varying distances). Movement is also good. If you want more gaming in your marathon session it might be fun to do a variation on Turing chess, especially since DF will progress in real time. Make sure to stretch your arms, wrists, and fingers at regular intervals and don't go straight from sitting to a strenuous activity without warming up a bit.

 

Avoid caffeine; in high doses it can have pretty negative effects. In any dose it will dehydrate you, which along with sitting and repetitive motion can give you muscle cramps and spasms. It can also exacerbate any heart or circulatory troubles you might have, even if you aren't currently aware of any. The same is true of energy drinks Gatorade isn't much better than any other sugary drink if you're not sweating for >30 minutes, but won't hurt you.

 

For food, go easy on salty items and be careful not to overeat.

 

Thanks, now I'm not so worried. I think my best bet is to get some in-place jogging and running in during my short per-hour breaks. With DF I can typically leave it running anyway as it'l pause on a major event. Going to be hard to lay off the caffeine though, I may mix it up with some water. And for food I'm just going to make some turkey sandwiches and some goldfish :)

 

With so much media sensationalism it's hard to separate fact from news sometimes.



#11 TheChubu   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 4063

Posted 27 June 2013 - 10:43 PM

Sounds like murder to me.

"I read a while ago in the Nexus forums that the fiancee of a modder died after playing for 11 hours. A blood clot formed in his leg and two hours later she was dead."

Very suspicious that she died, after he played for 11 hours. Doubly suspicious that she died two hours after a blood clot formed in his leg.

 

I mean, isn't that taking sympathetic pain to new levels?

All I can say is that it was a very intense deathmatch session.


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#12 SuperVGA   Members   -  Reputation: 1118

Posted 28 June 2013 - 12:26 AM

 

Sounds like murder to me.

"I read a while ago in the Nexus forums that the fiancee of a modder died after playing for 11 hours. A blood clot formed in his leg and two hours later she was dead."

Very suspicious that she died, after he played for 11 hours. Doubly suspicious that she died two hours after a blood clot formed in his leg.

 

I mean, isn't that taking sympathetic pain to new levels?

All I can say is that it was a very intense deathmatch session.

That's very typical of bad modding: He gets the clot, but she dies two hours later. He should have read this!!!!

 

On topic though; stay active. If you don't run or bike, make yourself do something similar if possible.

The cases with all-nighter -related deaths I've read about is typically very inactive gamers.

I remember around 12 years ago today. In Søborg, we had this net café, mostly people would go there to play LAN games, although some would play online. There was a boy who spent 3 days there, then he collapsed and died. Since then, the establishments as that have become a little more aware of how long their young customers spend there.

 

In general, though, I think these things are a little exaggerated. Both in the media and on the web. But the story with the kid in the net cafe actually happened in my neighborhood.


Edited by SuperVGA, 28 June 2013 - 03:57 AM.


#13 Bacterius   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 8483

Posted 28 June 2013 - 12:27 AM


The biggest thing I've read is that I should take a 10 minute break every hour to keep my heart/veins from imploding.

 

lolwut, that's a 16% productivity loss.

 

Seriously, health risks are always ludicrously exaggerated on the internet. Your body will be fine, and it will let you know when you need to stretch or go for a walk or have a drink. It isn't retarded and neither are you (if someone is stupid enough to ignore all warning signs and stay put for days on end glued to a computer screen, then one deserves to die - no offense, it's just natural selection at work). If you are in decent health now you will not die or be permanently damaged from an occasional gaming marathon. It just becomes a problem when you do that too often and don't give yourself time to recover.

 

On a related note, my last exam is tomorrow. I might have a marathon of my own next week or so tongue.png


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#14 Tim Sarbin   Members   -  Reputation: 140

Posted 28 June 2013 - 10:21 AM

Well I think I have all my stuff in place. I'm going to do some final warmups before doing a small early sleep. I'm planning on running it from 8pm EST till at least 2pm the next day, but hopefully 8pm depending on how well it goes to that point :) It's going to be Essial on twitch. Hopefully I'll get some help and so that there isn't too much Fun early on.



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Posted 28 June 2013 - 11:06 AM

 


The biggest thing I've read is that I should take a 10 minute break every hour to keep my heart/veins from imploding.

 

lolwut, that's a 16% productivity loss.

 

Good thing Google ain't around to disagree...

 

... Wait a moment ... !!!???


Edited by SuperVGA, 28 June 2013 - 11:06 AM.


#16 noatom   Members   -  Reputation: 782

Posted 30 June 2013 - 01:35 PM

This is probably the stupidest thing I ever heard.What's the point in this? After 8-10 hours you will be so tired,that the only thing that will make you still wanna play will be just to complete the 24 hrs.


Edited by noatom, 30 June 2013 - 01:35 PM.


#17 KnolanCross   Members   -  Reputation: 1271

Posted 01 July 2013 - 10:44 AM

This is probably the stupidest thing I ever heard.What's the point in this? After 8-10 hours you will be so tired,that the only thing that will make you still wanna play will be just to complete the 24 hrs.

 

Well, you can assume the same for a marathon. The idea is the challenge and the experience. Also, I have played 16 hours straight of Ragnarok Online once and I was OK by the end, I stop playing because my third party of the day had left and I had no hope of finding another at 5 a. m. I was tired, but I could surely play for a couple more hours.


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#18 noatom   Members   -  Reputation: 782

Posted 01 July 2013 - 01:13 PM

Challange and experience? And what is the experience exactly? If you sleep when you're tired and then continue the game...isn't it the same thing?

And the challange sounds like this: it's raining and I'm right outside by house,I'm gonna stay in the rain to prove myself I'm good at this/



#19 LennyLen   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 3663

Posted 02 July 2013 - 07:37 AM

This is probably the stupidest thing I ever heard.What's the point in this? After 8-10 hours you will be so tired,that the only thing that will make you still wanna play will be just to complete the 24 hrs.

 

8-10 hours is a normal working day for most people, and should certainly not be exhausting..



#20 KnolanCross   Members   -  Reputation: 1271

Posted 02 July 2013 - 02:29 PM

Challange and experience? And what is the experience exactly? If you sleep when you're tired and then continue the game...isn't it the same thing?

And the challange sounds like this: it's raining and I'm right outside by house,I'm gonna stay in the rain to prove myself I'm good at this/

 

Not exactly, your brain works diferently as you do something over and over. The challenge is basically this, but again, saying you can is totally different than actually doing it.

 

About the challenge, if you follow this thinking running a marathon, a game jam and going to a rave are all the same experience as running a mile, coding an hour and going to a party for 1 hour.


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