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#1 Migi0027   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 1722

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 05:56 AM

Hi guys! happy.png

 

This is my current issue, I'm trying to create 3d billboards, now this is how I think I should do it:

 

(Sample: Render thousands of grass instances)

 

Create Instance Buffer ( -> Position, Rotation)

Send Mesh Stuff + Instance Buffer

 

Shader:

{
  float4x4 rMatrix = generateRotationMatrix(instanceRot);
  position = mul(position, rMatrix);
  position += instancepos;

  ...apply World, View, Proj matrices here.
  ...
}

But is this the best way? Because I don't think passing a constant buffer with thousands of rotation matrices would be so good, am I wrong?

 

What does you're experience tell you to do here?

 

So the real question is: How can I individually rotate thousands of instances to the cameras view?

 

Thank You, like always! wink.png


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#2 menohack   Members   -  Reputation: 216

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 05:17 PM

You don't rotate billboards. Billboards always face the camera because they are just 2-D sprites. The only matrix you need to store per instance in your instance buffer is the world matrix. This matrix will have the position and scale of the billboards, such that the further it is the smaller it gets.

 

Anyway for instancing models this is what I do:

#define NUM_MAX_INSTANCES 128

struct InstanceBuffer
{
	XMFLOAT4X4 InstanceWorld[NUM_MAX_INSTANCES];
};

Then my shaders (note this is a normal model, not a billboard) look something like this:

PS_INPUT VS( VS_INPUT input, uint iid : SV_InstanceID)
{
    PS_INPUT output = (PS_INPUT)0;
    output.Pos = mul( input.Pos, InstanceWorld[iid] );
    output.Pos = mul( output.Pos, View );
    output.Pos = mul( output.Pos, Projection );
    output.Norm = mul(float4(input.Norm, 0), InstanceWorld[iid] ).xyz;
	output.Tex = input.Tex;
    
    return output;
}
#define NUM_MAX_INSTANCES 128

cbuffer InstanceBuffer : register(b1)
{
	matrix InstanceWorld[NUM_MAX_INSTANCES];
}

Someone else can chime in with the max size of the instance buffer. I just guessed 128 for now.

 

Any time I need to render a batch of instanced models I call UpdateSubresource() with my new instance buffer and then DrawInstanced(). For drawing thousands of models I would probably have multiple DrawInstanced() calls, but I don't know if there is a better way.



#3 mhagain   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 7939

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 05:39 PM

You don't even need to store a matrix in your per-instance buffer (which I'd use a dynamic vertex buffer for, with D3D11_INPUT_PER_INSTANCE_DATA in the corresponding input layout so that you won't run into cbuffer space limits); you can just store a combined MVP in your per-frame cbuffer, then the position of each instance in your per-instance buffer.

 

In your per-frame cbuffer you also store a couple of vectors which you can extract from your view matrix, and that gives you everything you need to do billboarding, at a significantly reduced data cost and much higher ceiling on how many instances you can have per draw call.

 

A discussion of the technique (implemented in software, but which you should be easily able to convert to shader code) is available here: http://www.mvps.org/directx/articles/view_oriented_billboards.htm


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#4 Migi0027   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 1722

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 02:35 PM

Thank you mhagain and menohack!

 

mhagain, I followed your link and it is actually working now, and now I'm translating it into shader code, but here is my worry:

 

How can I translate the vertices individually, as each vertex has it's own location.

 

I guess I could use the SV_VertexID and then use some if's, but would that be slow?

 

I'm not asking for you to write the shader code, just guide me.


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#5 mhagain   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 7939

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 03:21 PM

The easiest way would be to use a geometry shader.  Input one point, output a 4-vert tristrip, and just lift it from the software version.  You don't need to use instancing with this method, although having the GS stage active will introduce some (small) additional overhead.  If that's acceptable, then go do it.

 

Another method would be to use an additional per-vertex buffer, containing 4 verts.  This buffer can be static, and each vertex is 2 floats: {{-1, -1}, {1, -1}, {-1, 1}, {1, 1}} works well for one tristrip ordering (other tristrip orderings will be different, of course).  Let's assume that this is called "offset" in your VS input struct, that "position" is a float3, and you get the following:

vs_out.position = mul (float4 (vs_in.position + right * offset.x + up * offset.y, 1.0f), globalMVP);

If you want each billboard to have a variable scale ("scale" in your input struct) modify like so:

vs_out.position = mul (float4 (vs_in.position + (right * offset.x + up * offset.y) * vs_in.scale, 1.0f), globalMVP)

This isn't exactly the same as the example in the link I posted; that one produces a diamond shape, this one is a square.

 

These "offsets" can alternatively be indexed via SV_VertexID and also be reused for texcoords, by the way.


Edited by mhagain, 12 July 2013 - 03:23 PM.

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#6 Migi0027   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 1722

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 04:26 PM

Ohh but luckily I am going after a square wink.png

 

And if needed, I found this one: http://www.evolution3d.net/my3dstuff/papers/papers.php?key=billboards

 

It's basically a copy, but with the squares!

 

... Still Working on Billboards...


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#7 Migi0027   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 1722

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 04:27 PM

Thank you all for improving my knowledge on Billboards!

 

See you next time! laugh.png


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