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#1 fir   Members   -  Reputation: -460

Posted 14 August 2013 - 10:56 AM

Are you often overworked, or are you mostly at ease,

and overworked rarely. (I am overworked considerably

often) How do you 'cope' with that?

 

How many hours a week you spend coding, and 

how many hours a week you spend reading about programming?

 



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#2 fir   Members   -  Reputation: -460

Posted 20 August 2013 - 11:49 PM

Are you often overworked, or are you mostly at ease,

and overworked rarely. (I am overworked considerably

often) How do you 'cope' with that?

 

How many hours a week you spend coding, and 

how many hours a week you spend reading about programming?

 

No answers to that? It would be interesting to hear - I think overworking related things/themes are important in this profession (because programming usually means a lot of work (and I like to hear how do people get by with that )


Edited by fir, 21 August 2013 - 04:40 AM.


#3 SimonForsman   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 6122

Posted 21 August 2013 - 02:19 AM

I'm not overworked that often, i have a normal 40 hour work week (not all of it is spent actually coding ofcourse),5 weeks paid vacation,  overtime is rare and is compensated with time off.

I do however also spend some of my free time working on my own projects(Allthough progress there is quite slow as i don't spend as much time as i should) or just playing around with new and interesting things.


Edited by SimonForsman, 21 August 2013 - 02:21 AM.

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#4 fir   Members   -  Reputation: -460

Posted 21 August 2013 - 04:47 AM

I'm not overworked that often, i have a normal 40 hour work week (not all of it is spent actually coding ofcourse),5 weeks paid vacation,  overtime is rare and is compensated with time off.

I do however also spend some of my free time working on my own projects(Allthough progress there is quite slow as i don't spend as much time as i should) or just playing around with new and interesting things.

 

I am not workin in the ofice recent times, workin for my own education only,  but still I am overworked hard quite often; This summer I put on on ease and try to not work hard so it becomes somewhat better, 

 

If someone has some thoughts about the overworking and related things I would like to hear.

 

[ For myself I couldnt decide if putting myself in such overworking states (by working much and not getting at ease) is better of worse, though it seems maybe that is more wrong than good, head need to breath. ]

 

What is your experience, What do you think ? (general question )


Edited by fir, 21 August 2013 - 08:16 AM.


#5 SimonForsman   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 6122

Posted 21 August 2013 - 05:05 AM

Its never good to be overworked, your productivity tends to drop when you're tired so in my opinion it should be avoided unless you absolutely have to meet a deadline for some reason.


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#6 fir   Members   -  Reputation: -460

Posted 21 August 2013 - 06:37 AM

Its never good to be overworked, your productivity tends to drop when you're tired so in my opinion it should be avoided unless you absolutely have to meet a deadline for some reason.

 

But still I think that many (maybe the most) of the people in this field (hardcore game programming ) Is 'overworked often' Or am I wrong and most of them is relaxed and 'at ease' when working ?



#7 SimonForsman   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 6122

Posted 21 August 2013 - 08:32 AM

 

Its never good to be overworked, your productivity tends to drop when you're tired so in my opinion it should be avoided unless you absolutely have to meet a deadline for some reason.

 

But still I think that many (maybe the most) of the people in this field (hardcore game programming ) Is 'overworked often' Or am I wrong and most of them is relaxed and 'at ease' when working ?

 

 

Some crunch time is virtually unavoidable when you're working with big projects and deadlines though. (and during crunchtime almost everyone will be overworked)

How often it happens depends on the company. If it happens often it is a sign of bad management (I don't think bad management is more common in the games industry than in other industries)


Edited by SimonForsman, 21 August 2013 - 08:34 AM.

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#8 fir   Members   -  Reputation: -460

Posted 21 August 2013 - 08:56 AM

 

 

But still I think that many (maybe the most) of the people in this field (hardcore game programming ) Is 'overworked often' Or am I wrong and most of them is relaxed and 'at ease' when working ?

 

 

Some crunch time is virtually unavoidable when you're working with big projects and deadlines though. (and during crunchtime almost everyone will be overworked)

How often it happens depends on the company. If it happens often it is a sign of bad management (I don't think bad management is more common in the games industry than in other industries)

 

 

It is not so much about industry but about profession. Can successfull game making (programming) be done with 'at ease' relax setting ? It is such big amount of hard work that going thru this is a pain mostly (At least it is my own experience, I like it the most, but it is hard pain still)



#9 Memories are Better   Prime Members   -  Reputation: 769

Posted 21 August 2013 - 09:35 AM

#define overworked

 

I think people who enjoy their jobs / work will happily do a lot of hours in it, those who don't like their job will likely get stressed, irritated and / or angry if overworked. Take games for example, it is very easy to dedicate enormous amount of hours playing a fun game, even staying up past your bedtime or making time for the game. This is because you are having fun, if you are having that much fun in work, you will likely not care or even complain about the hours.

 


How many hours a week you spend coding, and

how many hours a week you spend reading about programming?

 

I have far too much fun programming so much so that I gave up playing games for it and by the looks of it this probably wont change, I usually do approx 98 hours a week (researching and programming), but I don't consider it 'work', I do other stuff too like working out, cooking and ofc playing with the cat. I'll admit I no longer have a social or sex life, cant even remember the last time I was in the sun and unless it is technology / political related (mentioned in parliament) I have no idea what's going on in the world. A little too much info I guess, my point is, if you are having fun the time will fly by and you wont really care to question it and happily sacrifice hobbies / tasks so that you dedicate more to that work.

 

I think if a person is feeling overworked, they need to find out what it is that is making them feel like that, it isn't always the hours that makes them feel overworked



#10 szecs   Members   -  Reputation: 2149

Posted 21 August 2013 - 09:37 AM

I wanted to comment about how stupid it is to read books about programming for hours every week, but then I saw there is nothing about books in the original post.



#11 fir   Members   -  Reputation: -460

Posted 21 August 2013 - 09:44 AM

I wanted to comment about how stupid it is to read books about programming for hours every week, but then I saw there is nothing about books in the original post.

 

Why it is so much stupid? It was not about books only but I think every programmer have to read a lot - tutorials, books, forums, articles... I do read a lot and this make me overworked too, as a coding do ... 



#12 szecs   Members   -  Reputation: 2149

Posted 21 August 2013 - 09:48 AM

Reading stuff is not stupid, but reading books for HOURS EVERY WEEK is that a bit, in my opinion.



#13 fir   Members   -  Reputation: -460

Posted 21 August 2013 - 10:00 AM

#define overworked

 

I think people who enjoy their jobs / work will happily do a lot of hours in it, those who don't like their job will likely get stressed, irritated and / or angry if overworked. Take games for example, it is very easy to dedicate enormous amount of hours playing a fun game, even staying up past your bedtime or making time for the game. This is because you are having fun, if you are having that much fun in work, you will likely not care or even complain about the hours.

 

 

 


How many hours a week you spend coding, and

how many hours a week you spend reading about programming?

 

I have far too much fun programming so much so that I gave up playing games for it and by the looks of it this probably wont change, I usually do approx 98 hours a week (researching and programming), but I don't consider it 'work', I do other stuff too like working out, cooking and ofc playing with the cat. I'll admit I no longer have a social or sex life, cant even remember the last time I was in the sun and unless it is technology / political related (mentioned in parliament) I have no idea what's going on in the world. A little too much info I guess, my point is, if you are having fun the time will fly by and you wont really care to question it and happily sacrifice hobbies / tasks so that you dedicate more to that work.

 

I think if a person is feeling overworked, they need to find out what it is that is making them feel like that, it isn't always the hours that makes them feel overworked

 

I do like programming but i feel overworked, As I said im working recently for my own purposes and no pressure on me, but I am working consideribly long times a weak (with no pressure), say 10 hours a day 70 weak but i still feel overworked -it is I feel some kind of pain, Im  tired or about that and my head is aching (maybe it is not to acute but it is somewhat constant strain)

There was the times it was worse, this summer I work less than usual 

- So I wonder if programming can be relaxing occupation at all, or this pain is unavoidable. I am not so great health so maybe this is related to that, I do not know, But I am searching for opinion like this.

 

As to game playing this is quite different - gaming is mostly relax for me and it do not pain me like a programming do - thought in very rare cases of maniac playing when you will play 3 days and doing not to much something else it can hurt you too - but I am not sure if this is quite releted (programming is harder there always hard cases tu understand and so on)

 

As to free time, I am swimming in the water quite often and feel 

somewhat relaxed by this but this is weak relax to be true, Society life could relax me more but Indeed I have no to much good society and mostly program - and it is hard pain. I do not have to quit it but it is pain .


Edited by fir, 21 August 2013 - 10:04 AM.


#14 fir   Members   -  Reputation: -460

Posted 21 August 2013 - 10:06 AM

Reading stuff is not stupid, but reading books for HOURS EVERY WEEK is that a bit, in my opinion.

 

But why ? I do not meant books only but learning stuff of many kind  



#15 walsh06   Members   -  Reputation: 662

Posted 21 August 2013 - 10:22 AM

 

#define overworked

 

I think people who enjoy their jobs / work will happily do a lot of hours in it, those who don't like their job will likely get stressed, irritated and / or angry if overworked. Take games for example, it is very easy to dedicate enormous amount of hours playing a fun game, even staying up past your bedtime or making time for the game. This is because you are having fun, if you are having that much fun in work, you will likely not care or even complain about the hours.

 

 

 


How many hours a week you spend coding, and

how many hours a week you spend reading about programming?

 

I have far too much fun programming so much so that I gave up playing games for it and by the looks of it this probably wont change, I usually do approx 98 hours a week (researching and programming), but I don't consider it 'work', I do other stuff too like working out, cooking and ofc playing with the cat. I'll admit I no longer have a social or sex life, cant even remember the last time I was in the sun and unless it is technology / political related (mentioned in parliament) I have no idea what's going on in the world. A little too much info I guess, my point is, if you are having fun the time will fly by and you wont really care to question it and happily sacrifice hobbies / tasks so that you dedicate more to that work.

 

I think if a person is feeling overworked, they need to find out what it is that is making them feel like that, it isn't always the hours that makes them feel overworked

 

I do like programming but i feel overworked, As I said im working recently for my own purposes and no pressure on me, but I am working consideribly long times a weak (with no pressure), say 10 hours a day 70 weak but i still feel overworked -it is I feel some kind of pain, Im  tired or about that and my head is aching (maybe it is not to acute but it is somewhat constant strain)

There was the times it was worse, this summer I work less than usual 

- So I wonder if programming can be relaxing occupation at all, or this pain is unavoidable. I am not so great health so maybe this is related to that, I do not know, But I am searching for opinion like this.

 

As to game playing this is quite different - gaming is mostly relax for me and it do not pain me like a programming do - thought in very rare cases of maniac playing when you will play 3 days and doing not to much something else it can hurt you too - but I am not sure if this is quite releted (programming is harder there always hard cases tu understand and so on)

 

As to free time, I am swimming in the water quite often and feel 

somewhat relaxed by this but this is weak relax to be true, Society life could relax me more but Indeed I have no to much good society and mostly program - and it is hard pain. I do not have to quit it but it is pain .

 

Ya I dont think you should be feeling like that. Especially if its every day. Like in my current job or in college I do plenty of work but I always make sure Im sleeping enough and if one week I get a bit less sleep I make up for it at the weekend. And that gets me through each day in the right state of mind to work well.

 

And relaxing occupation might not be the right word but enjoyable certainly can be as others said. If you enjoy what you do youll be more likely to work more.



#16 fir   Members   -  Reputation: -460

Posted 21 August 2013 - 10:57 AM

Ya I dont think you should be feeling like that. Especially if its every day. Like in my current job or in college I do plenty of work but I always make sure Im sleeping enough and if one week I get a bit less sleep I make up for it at the weekend. And that gets me through each day in the right state of mind to work well.

 

And relaxing occupation might not be the right word but enjoyable certainly can be as others said. If you enjoy what you do youll be more likely to work more.

 

 

Ya I would like to feel better (I become depressive), but had no

clue how to do it. It is not so bad maybe, but programming it is a constant pain  for me (as I said many times).  'Enjoying it' is not a good word too, I probably do not 'enjoy' it - I do it becouse it is very interesting and I think it is worth spending my time,  but feel like im overworked and do not enjoy almost anything  in a long time :/ Hope it will not go into a worse - it last quite long of not enjoyable slowly painfull times of programming :/



#17 walsh06   Members   -  Reputation: 662

Posted 22 August 2013 - 02:29 AM

ya I think you should try fix that. If you dont enjoy it and you doing it is making you sick and depressed then theres something wrong and should be sorted. Thats just my opinion but spending 10 hours a day on something you arent enjoying and is actually detrimental to your health is not good.



#18 patrrr   Members   -  Reputation: 1011

Posted 22 August 2013 - 03:05 AM

 

Reading stuff is not stupid, but reading books for HOURS EVERY WEEK is that a bit, in my opinion.

 

But why ? I do not meant books only but learning stuff of many kind  

 

Reading books isn't the only way to learn. Often, it's not even the best way. Learning by doing FTW.

 

Right now, I'm hardly overworked. I quit my day job after saving up some money and now I'm taking it easy, working on some projects just for fun. I just submitted my first app to the app store. Eventually I'll have to get some full-time work though.


Edited by patrrr, 22 August 2013 - 03:12 AM.


#19 cardinal   Members   -  Reputation: 888

Posted 23 August 2013 - 08:29 PM

I find the term overworked hard to define.

 

I normally work 50 hour weeks (up to 80 depending on my work load). I rarely feel overworked unless the tasks I'm working on don't interest me, or I'm stuck on a task.

 

In other jobs I've worked I felt overworked when working far fewer hours.



#20 fir   Members   -  Reputation: -460

Posted 26 September 2013 - 02:33 AM

Well as i said, I notice that when I program much  I go out of relaxed state - recent times I tried go out from this unrelaxed state and for example today at least I managed to be noticably more relaxed and feel ok (but It take a whole two months of lounge - and i worry i could do much work in this time) But this was probably needed - Now i still do not know if go back to work or take a lounge yet some time..


Edited by fir, 26 September 2013 - 02:34 AM.





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