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Which IDE will make me a better programmer Visual Studio or Eclipse?


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#21 tstrimple   Prime Members   -  Reputation: 1725

Posted 19 August 2013 - 03:53 PM

Bah! Ninja'd


Edited by tstrimple, 19 August 2013 - 03:55 PM.


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#22 frob   Moderators   -  Reputation: 22271

Posted 19 August 2013 - 04:23 PM

Yup, that is standard boilerplate that is frequently misread. It means you can't package up the product and sell it as your own.  For example, you cannot rebrand it as "Shippou's Visual Studio".  It does not keep you from distributing products made using the tool.

 

 

Getting back to the original poster, 


So they are about the same level of abstraction then?  I won't be a better programmer with Eclipse (even on Windows)?
They are similar but different tools.  Both tools allow you to edit code, launch tools, and debug your program.
 
You need more details if you want better answers.  Specifically, what languages are you using, what platform are you developing on, and what platforms are you targeting?
 
 
Visual Studio can dig deeply into Windows when debugging. When editing windows-targeting binaries and Microsoft's runtime libraries. When using other languages not directly supported by Visual Studio you lose many features. (For example, you would lose "edit and continue", which is a feature that has saved millions of developer hours.) If you are developing for Windows on Windows, which is probably the most common pattern for games, then Visual Studio is the answer.
 
Eclipse is excellent at Java, and moderately good at other environments. The IDE is much less integrated in non-Java environments. The equivalent of VS's "edit and continue" is only available in Java if you are using Eclipse's build chain and expected build folder locations, and is not available for other languages and tool plugins. If you are developing in Java than Eclipse is probably the IDE of choice.

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#23 Dwarf King   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 1888

Posted 19 August 2013 - 04:24 PM

 

You posted a link to a forum ...

 

Here is directly from the end user agreement

 

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Yes I did, but not any forum, Microsoft's own forum.  There are plenty of the same questions over there and they all get the same answer.


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#24 ChaosEngine   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 2454

Posted 19 August 2013 - 04:51 PM

My opinion ?
Eclipse doesn't force you to use Micro$oft exclusive libraries when compiling  ... Visual Studio forces you to include include "Redistributable" along with your compiled work.

 
Yeah, gotta watch that evil M$...  rolleyes.gif

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#25 Shippou   Members   -  Reputation: 1714

Posted 19 August 2013 - 04:52 PM

You do realize I use Windows .... correct ?


Edited by Shippou, 19 August 2013 - 05:12 PM.

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#26 Net Gnome   Members   -  Reputation: 773

Posted 19 August 2013 - 05:10 PM

from IDEs to EULAs, wooooooo derailed thread! :D 



#27 ChaosEngine   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 2454

Posted 19 August 2013 - 05:14 PM

You do realize I use Windows everything, correct ?

And that somehow makes your ignorance better?


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