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#1 suliman   Members   -  Reputation: 566

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 03:56 AM

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Im doing a multiplayer realtime-strategy similar to total war, without the 3d battles. Also the entire game is realtime and more streamlined for faster multiplayer.

 

You build cities and develop them "on the map" and train armies. When armies meet the "map-game" continues during the battle which takes ca 30 sec.

Battles are realtime and you decide which unit of some choices will be sent to each "slot" on the field (units dont move around).

If a unit dies you choose which one to replace it in that slot (both melee and ranged slots exists).

 

During battle, only the player involved in it are "locked" into controlling the battle, other players go on as normal.

If another battle is triggered but one of the players involved are already locked in another battle, the new battle will be resolved once player is available (the two armies will be locked while waiting).

 

Would this work you think? Battles will not be super frequent. Maybe you can "leave one of your battles on autopilot" although part of the fun is resolving the battles...

 

Thanks

Erik



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#2 SimonForsman   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 6112

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 04:48 AM

Hi

Im doing a multiplayer realtime-strategy similar to total war, without the 3d battles. Also the entire game is realtime and more streamlined for faster multiplayer.

 

You build cities and develop them "on the map" and train armies. When armies meet the "map-game" continues during the battle which takes ca 30 sec.

Battles are realtime and you decide which unit of some choices will be sent to each "slot" on the field (units dont move around).

If a unit dies you choose which one to replace it in that slot (both melee and ranged slots exists).

 

During battle, only the player involved in it are "locked" into controlling the battle, other players go on as normal.

If another battle is triggered but one of the players involved are already locked in another battle, the new battle will be resolved once player is available (the two armies will be locked while waiting).

 

Would this work you think? Battles will not be super frequent. Maybe you can "leave one of your battles on autopilot" although part of the fun is resolving the battles...

 

Thanks

Erik

 

You could allow the player to switch between ongoing battles and the map at will instead of locking them.


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#3 Archbishop   Members   -  Reputation: 258

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 10:13 AM

Battles are realtime and you decide which unit of some choices will be sent to each "slot" on the field (units dont move around).
If a unit dies you choose which one to replace it in that slot (both melee and ranged slots exists).


What exactly do you mean by this? I'm a little confused by what you envision for this project. Do you just mean to have a couple of set positions for your units and then they battle it out from there once they are ready? I.E...

(Left Flank)  [ Left Wing ] [ Center ] [ Right Wing ]  (Right Flank)
                          [LC Back]           [RC Back]

Perhaps I'm very mistaken, but you said that they wouldn't directly control the units, or did you mean individual men and that they control the groups as a whole.

 

During battle, only the player involved in it are "locked" into controlling the battle, other players go on as normal.
If another battle is triggered but one of the players involved are already locked in another battle, the new battle will be resolved once player is available (the two armies will be locked while waiting).

Personally, I think it would be interesting to implement in a full real-time way as the previous poster suggested. Why lock battles? Granted, it makes it easier to manage from a player perspective, but in RTS games, if a player is attacked from three sides, they learn to cope. The other players are dealing with ordering their troops as well. It could be a strategy to overwhelm the other player, making them choose which battles to focus on and order about manually. Others, they'll have to rely on defensive positioning so they can either deal with the bigger threats on other fields, or simply let those armies be crushed while they hopefully win elsewhere. 

I don't know what kind of game you plan on creating, but if it's a many player game (4+), having things like fog of war and observer units to see the battle fields may give players an edge. If you spot them already involved with another player and in combat, now might be a good time to sneak attack and strike an army / town while they don't have the resources to devote to all of their battles at once, increasing the attacker's odds of victory.

With this, you might be able to draw out the length of battles a little bit, and slow down army movement on the overview map.


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Posted 23 September 2013 - 08:36 AM

It actually sounds a bit like a Football Manager Text Match. Where you can play around with the tactics and squad (units) as the match plays. You can also manipulate time so the game pauses, speeds up or slows down. 

 

Personally, I prefer this method as opposed to the 3D version. I find the 3D version is pretty slow and turns the game into a chore. Although, I don't mind seeing 3D highlights when a key moment occurs like someone scoring a goal or getting sent off.

 

You could possibly look at any Football Manager game and see how that plays out for a reference. It's not the same type of game by any means but the options available to the player are brilliant depending on their playing style.



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Posted 26 September 2013 - 07:22 AM

Sounds like lords of the realm 3



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 02:21 AM

I recommend a more "fire and forget" approach to battles. If the main thing the player does is selecting units and ordering them to go somewhere, engaging in battle could simply mean sending units against enemy units and fortifications. Control of battles can be limited to sending someone else, retreating the army or moving units around in real time, without "locking" and without special "battle modes". A possible abstraction, compared to something like Starcraft, can be showing armies rather than individual units on the map, with lists of army members; this would allow replacing tactical engagements with less concrete formulas to resolve battles.
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