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#1 codeman_nz   Members   -  Reputation: 238

Posted 29 October 2013 - 04:38 PM

Are they back in style or a thing of the past?



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#2 Shane C   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 1283

Posted 29 October 2013 - 04:46 PM

They always were relevant. One reason is that it brings back that nostalgia feeling. Another is that it tends to be easier to make art for retro style games as the resolution is really low.

#3 Orymus3   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 10571

Posted 29 October 2013 - 05:36 PM


Another is that it tends to be easier to make art for retro style games as the resolution is really low.

Pixel art tends to actually be more expensive than a lot of conventional illustration styles...



#4 Acharis   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 3966

Posted 30 October 2013 - 04:33 AM

What a perfect opportunity to spam with a link to my retro game :) http://www.silverlemur.com/minotaursandunicorns/

 

If these are a thing of the past, well, hard to tell, my initial research shows there might be enough nostalgia people to allow making these (for an indie). Althrough, I personally think it would be a mistake to make it only as a sort of nostalgia, it should also have some appeal to "normal" players. In the end a game should be above all FUN and all ideologies like it being retro or whatever should come second.


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#5 ShiftyCake   Members   -  Reputation: 568

Posted 30 October 2013 - 04:50 AM

retro style games are simply another game type, in my opinion. While they provide nostalgia for many people, they are not exclusively for the 'original generation' of gamers. There are many new, or graphics revamped, retro games  that I extremely love. One such game would be Spelunky.

 

To be simple though, as long as people keep enjoying retro style games, it will never be a thing of the past.


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#6 ActiveUnique   Members   -  Reputation: 852

Posted 30 October 2013 - 09:00 AM

retro style games are simply another game type, in my opinion. While they provide nostalgia for many people, they are not exclusively for the 'original generation' of gamers. There are many new, or graphics revamped, retro games  that I extremely love. One such game would be Spelunky.

 

To be simple though, as long as people keep enjoying retro style games, it will never be a thing of the past.

I know Spelunky. The original game may have pixel art, the game has a very generous time limit, and it uses random map generation which makes it slightly more addictive. I don't think random level generation could have been so sophisticated, computers were s. l. o. when games were still emulating coin-operated machines w.


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#7 Orymus3   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 10571

Posted 31 October 2013 - 05:42 AM


What a perfect opportunity to spam with a link to my retro game

Ditto!

http://www.indiedb.com/games/grand-strategy-space-war

 

The reason I think retro gaming has reached a certain audience lately (which is also described on my blog) is the possibility to make games pretty much exactly the way they were, and only improve the input.

While its always arguable that modern gameplay is more or less interesting than these games, there's been an undeniable leap in User Experience and Usability over the past few decades.

 

My favorite example is Dune 2. It's a great strategy game that packs a TON of features that most of its successors couldn't achieve. Yet, you can't multi-select units (either through dragging a box around them, or even holding a key) and can't make "fast orders" with, say, the right-click. These are two important improvements that were made with future installments of the genre, generally in games with limited gameplay.

Making a retro RTS now could be based on a reboot of the Dune 2 microcosm of gameplay, all the while leveraging modern UX/Usability in such a way that the end-result would be undeniably easier to manipulate, and appeal to a bigger crowd all the while retaining the core aspects of what made the game good in the first place (as opposed to random sequels that manage to break this important balance).

 

There's also something interesting about the level of abstraction involved in pixel-art. In pixel-art, every single pixel matters, but if you look at it from up-close, it generally makes little sense. Its an art that expresses itself by the way it evokes things rather than depicting them, and though most of it is left to the imagination (which creates a form of subtle interaction with the player), the general idea is conveyed nonetheless in a highly optimized fashion.

 

Finally, as ActiveUnique puts it, there's a number of things we can do now that weren't done before in these games because they simply couldn't back then.

In a way, retro games are an attempt at maximizing design space instead of spending time on state-of-the-art visual. They pick up olds games, and see how they could be improved using modern technologies. The CPU power now compared to then allows us to do crazy stuff, whereas these games used to struggle to fit on a floppy disk, or fit their allocated memory. By not using all of the RAM and GPU for graphics processing, we get to play with more consuming routines such as open world or random generation of elements, or bigger databases.

 

As a developer, I find it highly satisfying to look at previous games that I believe were very good (for their time) and fix everything that I feel was wrong about these games. To me, it feels like a reliable approach to making objectively better games. Although there will always be purists of specific games, few will actually feel offended that you've taken on a few "old games" and fixed what was wrong with them (provided people agree at least on these criterias).



#8 Code Fox   Members   -  Reputation: 1805

Posted 31 October 2013 - 12:00 PM

Why is no one coming out with the VERY Old style games that used hard coded shapes, instead of sprite maps ?


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#9 mippy   Members   -  Reputation: 1004

Posted 02 November 2013 - 12:43 PM

Game style is a relatively new feature, compared to let's say furniture design, architecture (buildings) and (clothes) fashion. These art-areas tend to go in cycles. I think games have faced has closed it's first cycle of style. Also, the games retro thing is similar to the overall retro trend (diy apple jam and bee keeping) where you should go back to your roots. 

 

Many things is driving this, these are just some of them :)






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