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#1 Broadleaf   Members   -  Reputation: 153

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 10:40 AM

Hi guys, i'm stuck - i need to teach 13 years old how to programm, and i was thinking - ok

i just go the old way will teach him basic, and what i found is that most of basic stuff

is insanely outdated, or has some scent of commercialism in it 9all different implementations

that are as outdated).

 

Im really lost, last resort i downloaded vs2010 i thought ok this product must be up to date

and there are certainly some books teaching basic barebones on the basis of vs

but instead even some "starting programming from scratch using vs2010" teaches

FORMS IN FIRST CHAPTER! FORMS LOL

Why on earth would someone teach windows forms in basic book about basic?!

Please guys help i need some REAL basic implementation of Basic without all

that litter, to teach kid the basics. And it should be up to date i don't want to

fight outdated compilers or some OS related problems.

 

If that even exist.

 

 



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#2 PeterF   Members   -  Reputation: 582

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 12:43 PM

If you're not absolutely set on teaching BASIC, but just some form of programming, this ebook does a nice job of explaining the basics of Python, which is fairly intuitive and more modern than BASIC: http://inventwithpython.com/chapters/

For a clean, up-to-date version of BASIC, without any sort of compiler or OS, you can use a programmable graphing calculator - my first programming was on a slightly older version of this one (I can't find the exact model number of the one I used, but this one is close): https://www.google.ca/search?q=casio+graphing+calculator&oq=casio+graphing+calculator&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.10151j0j7&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8#es_sm=93&espv=210&q=casio%20cfx-9850gb%20plus

You can find some instructions on how to use it here: http://support.casio.com/pdf/004/fx_plus_chapter20.pdf



#3 aregee   Members   -  Reputation: 864

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 01:42 PM

Is this something along the lines of what you are looking for?

 

http://smallbasic.com/

 

"Is a simplified version of Microsoft's programming language Visual Basic, suitable for kids and beginners. It includes dozens of lessons and exercises that ..."

 

Edit:  More suggestions in this article: http://www.fractuslearning.com/2011/12/14/programming-for-kids/

 

Apart from those suggestions, it is not all that hard to use Java Script on a HTML canvas, if you want to do some graphics, and it may be more relevant too?

 

Examples that I have made that you can freely use, although something I just put together in an effort to learn, so code quality is not quite there:

 

http://stonearts.org/jsgame/1/  (A tile editor I started on (with bugs.)

http://stonearts.org/jsgame/2/  (Move tiles with the mouse, kind of like Candy Crush type of games.)

http://stonearts.org/jsgame/3/  (Bouncy Hearts.)

http://stonearts.org/jsgame/4/  (Drawing with bezier curves.)

 

Oh lastly, I just remembered something.  There is a small difference in how you get the canvas in different browsers, so the code might not work in all browsers.

 

I have tested it to work on:

 - Chrome

 - Firefox

 - Safari 

 

Does not work in:

 - Internet Explorer  (May work in IE 9+, I can't test that.)

 

It should however not be hard to tweak the code to work in all browsers, though.  I will see if I have time to make the changes that is needed for that.


Edited by aregee, 14 December 2013 - 03:48 PM.


#4 Paragon123   Members   -  Reputation: 409

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 11:53 AM

Procedural basic

http://www.freebasic.net/

 

Using VS you'd be teaching VisualBasic.Net which is much different than the basic of old.

VB.net is Object Oriented. If you want to teach a .net language teach C#.  The syntax of VB gets in it's own way and makes things much more complex/verbose then necessary.

 

.Net in general is geared toward windows application development which means it is geared towards forms. It is actually extremely easy to pick up WinForms in C#/VB but that means that if you are learning it as your first language you are learning more about event driven logic rather than the procedural logic it sounds like you are expecting.

 

Get one of the IDEs from the download page, I recommend fbIDE.

The Documentation is immaculate.


Edited by Paragon123, 17 December 2013 - 12:19 PM.


#5 Tutorial Doctor   Members   -  Reputation: 1506

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 01:13 PM

I try to keep my tutorials at child level for advanced topics. I have one here for the basics of programming:

http://snapguide.com/guides/understand-computer-programming/

They call me the Tutorial Doctor.





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