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#41 Hodgman   Moderators   -  Reputation: 31777

Posted 18 April 2014 - 10:51 PM

There used to be constant political and religious threads in the lounge. Did we crack down on that, or is it just because LessBread isn't around? ;)

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#42 fir   Members   -  Reputation: -456

Posted 19 April 2014 - 01:54 AM

I think part of fir's criticism is with the moderation policies
--whenever there's a controversial thread (read: flame war), we ask it to get back on topic, and then lock it when it doesn't.
-- the user base also does the same via the ratings system, where contaversial users (read: ignorant) get bombarded with downvotes.
Both of these mean that there's little controversy in discussions, but at the same time, there is a bit of a clique of popularist flaming, where insulting unpopular users isn't downvoted...

 

I personally dont care for up and down votes, and moderation I find a bit of too much conservative, but also dont care

 

Its more about some closed mindness ActiveUnique mentioned

 

this forum is some kind of narrow in some set of activities/expressions. It resembles a boring classroom where I wolud probably prefer a crazy pub full of oryginals ;/

 

But I was realy saying yet on another thing, maybe more my personal one, This forum strangely demotivates me, 

 

My energy drops down here, for example some interesting

topics which I would want to discuss for weaks are answered 

quickly partially and forum goes to another, This is to fast

to me.. I need some forum where one can discuss topics 

slower and longer but in more depth

 

To much crowd, topics change to quick, If this is so quick and is like fastfood consumption it feel uninteresting for me and i feel this wastes my time and energy same like city traffic life where i prefer slow village country life

 

so i can mention two things ;/

 

1) fastfood/city traffic quick style 

2) narow expressions  like in a boring classroom

3) ? (**)

maybe more but I dont know, I just feel this place demotivates

me and I am not quite compatible with it, 

- One thing is i am bored in general and indeed maybe i need 

to some society just for fun playing games and drinking beer 

- Second thing is for work i need to find some slower forum

where everything is slower (and topics live longer - does maybe someone know that kind of forum?)

 

PS. I had not hope that it will change here, maybe some better categorisation on smaller but clearly divided categories (as I said for example some category for 'code optymisation' etc would help it to make place where it would be not so crowded and topic could last longer and be discussed with more care), but it will probably not do.. 


Edited by fir, 19 April 2014 - 03:52 AM.


#43 jbadams   Senior Staff   -  Reputation: 19320

Posted 19 April 2014 - 02:18 AM


There used to be constant political and religious threads in the lounge. Did we crack down on that, or is it just because LessBread isn't around?

We had a limited crackdown on the religious topics after a run of pretty bad flame-wars all at once, but not on political topics.

 

As it stands both are still allowed but tend to be watched fairly carefully and closed when they inevitably break down into repetitive arguments or stray too far off topic.


Edited by jbadams, 19 April 2014 - 02:18 AM.


#44 szecs   Members   -  Reputation: 2185

Posted 19 April 2014 - 02:58 AM

Actually the Lounge is becoming more and more boring, mostly because threads like this (and all these "I need motivation" bullfuck threads).

 

If you find articles, technical threads to be boring, that programming must be very boring too for you. Find something else.

 

I, for example, don't program at all lately, but I still find even Devlogs and bugfix-logs exiting. I can read those for hours. I don't dare to look into the Technical forums lately, because it would surely suck me up for days.

 

 

EDIT: No matter how large this community is, the Lounge was always driven by a few guys, and most of them are gone now. Olii, Jyk, Owl, Less bread, Evil Steve, just to name a few from the last 5 years. And they say that the forums were even more awesome before that time.


Edited by szecs, 19 April 2014 - 03:09 AM.


#45 tom_mai78101   Members   -  Reputation: 577

Posted 19 April 2014 - 03:25 AM


And they say that the forums were even more awesome before that time.

 

TFY:  All forums were awesome back then. Heck, we once had 10,000+ unique visitors in our The Helper Forums for the WC3 community. And then there's the Atari Forums in general, before the bankruptcy, the Pokémon Rom Hacking Group forums before Megaupload was taken away by FBI, etc.



#46 fir   Members   -  Reputation: -456

Posted 19 April 2014 - 03:29 AM

(articles? no, im not saying about articles which are very good)

 

Boring are the shallow narrow and only slight touch way of discussing things in the forum, things have in general a weak response here 

 

(**) 3) closing tendency - this forum has some strange closing tendency (instead of trying tu discuss some thing ('waste some time') there is tendency to close things 

 

4) formal narrowness - there are ways of make form of the post more colorfull and surprising 

 

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even oldschool usenet pure asci forums vere more formally interesting crazy open and free


Edited by fir, 19 April 2014 - 03:59 AM.


#47 szecs   Members   -  Reputation: 2185

Posted 19 April 2014 - 04:17 AM

Okay, I haven't lurked the Technical forums for some time, so you may be right.

I remember Olii and Jyk making interesting replies for even Beginner topics (I always read all their replies in any topics, but they went away about two years ago), and I like to think that my Paint diagram explanations were somewhat fun too.

 

One problem can be that the number of users boosted in the last years, and beginners don't read back and keep asking the same old question over and over again. I remember making pretty deep explanations myself but after a while I was "meh" about replying or linking the same answers over and over again. I guess this is the case for other users who used to have fun with just making page-long explanations in replies.


Edited by szecs, 19 April 2014 - 04:26 AM.


#48 the incredible smoker   Members   -  Reputation: 402

Posted 19 April 2014 - 04:29 AM

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#49 swiftcoder   Senior Moderators   -  Reputation: 10360

Posted 19 April 2014 - 05:54 AM

One problem can be that the number of users boosted in the last years, and beginners don't read back and keep asking the same old question over and over again. I remember making pretty deep explanations myself but after a while I was "meh" about replying or linking the same answers over and over again. I guess this is the case for other users who used to have fun with just making page-long explanations in replies.

 

I've certainly noticed the same thing - increasing infinite repetition of trivial threads that are probably better suited to StackOverflow, and a gradual attrition of the senior forum members who used to answer said questions.

 

But I can't tell if this is really a trend, or just a sign of us getting old...


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#50 fir   Members   -  Reputation: -456

Posted 19 April 2014 - 07:09 AM

 

But I can't tell if this is really a trend, or just a sign of us getting old...

 

 

I can answer you - its both

 

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Edited by fir, 19 April 2014 - 07:10 AM.


#51 tom_mai78101   Members   -  Reputation: 577

Posted 19 April 2014 - 07:53 AM

It's a Lopunny. <3



#52 Madhed   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 3129

Posted 19 April 2014 - 08:41 AM

When I joined the forums I was young and crazy and I guess most of the "founding fathers" were as well.

GDNet was one of the prime gamedev related forums. These days you have a multitude of different resources available.

Now most of the original members are probably out of college, in stable jobs and have a family of their own.

 

Back then it did feel more like a tight-knit community of regular members who, besides being extremely knowledgable in their fields,

had time to get into long and seemingly neverending discussions, including silly stuff and even creating GDNet memes. floorcaek anyone?

 

I think it's just normal that once this large, somewhat homogenous group separates and new members only join irregularly, the original spirit gets lost.

If we want to have a revival of some sorts we must be more proactive with community driven efforts. The GDNet weekend challenges are a good example.

 

And a personal advice to fir:

You sound somewhat depressed (just my humble opinion). Maybe you should try to find happyness outside of the net. The place has become somewhat sterile and technical.



#53 Icebone1000   Members   -  Reputation: 1145

Posted 19 April 2014 - 08:43 AM

When I think about that subject I dont even think about the lounge, I never visited the lounge on the first months/maybe years, I was always on the technical side, I started visited the lounge all of sudden for no reason.

 

I dont have programming friends, so the internet is the only place to ask for help. Gamedev was like the illuminated oracle I found where my questions where answered without needing a wall of context. My english was pure crap (was ¦D), and this was the first forum without grammar nazis I ever found, can you imagine my shock? Theres such thing as places without grammar nazis, wooooot /o/



#54 mhagain   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 8270

Posted 19 April 2014 - 09:27 AM

I dont have

 

That's "don't".

 

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#55 Icebone1000   Members   -  Reputation: 1145

Posted 19 April 2014 - 09:45 AM

 

I dont have

 

That's "don't".

 

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Oh the flying comma..I never know if its the right key, an accent or a quote on the keyboard.



#56 tom_mai78101   Members   -  Reputation: 577

Posted 19 April 2014 - 10:05 AM

I dont have


That's "don't".

:):):):):)
Oh the flying comma..I never know if its the right key, an accent or a quote on the keyboard.
It's called an apostrophe (a-POS-stro-FEE), used for marking our single char values from ASCII code or double byte values. For example, char ch = rgbColor & 0xFF;

#57 TheChubu   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 4738

Posted 19 April 2014 - 10:30 AM


(and all these "I need motivation" bullfuck threads).
lmao I never heard about "bullfuck"

 

Bullshit? No man, this is worse, this is BULLFUCK


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#58 ApochPiQ   Moderators   -  Reputation: 16378

Posted 19 April 2014 - 10:32 AM

You mean it isn't Sparta?



#59 Aardvajk   Crossbones+   -  Reputation: 6181

Posted 19 April 2014 - 10:35 AM

Funny how the people who claim not to care about the ratings are always the ones who have been down voted a lot.

fir - your issues with social interaction are not our problem and this passive aggressive thread you have started is embarrassing.

You'll find your attitude gets you disliked in almost all professional environments. The problem here is squarely on your own shoulders.

#60 fir   Members   -  Reputation: -456

Posted 19 April 2014 - 10:40 AM

 

And a personal advice to fir:

You sound somewhat depressed (just my humble opinion). Maybe you should try to find happyness outside of the net. The place has become somewhat sterile and technical.

 

Real life i know is boring (I mean almost all post-college life i know), I mean avaliable real life for me is boring (I would say about equally boring to this forum i criticize, no offence ;/)

 

But thats a different story, and I was speaking not about that, Some other internet places I know, are indeed a bit better than here,- this place is almost a temple of boredom for me; little exagerrating, but it could be better,  y a w n

 

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