Internet Explorer 11 Debacle

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53 comments, last by 3Ddreamer 9 years, 8 months ago

I will answer some of the posts here. There are too many ideas which deserve a reply, but it's only practical to answer a few issues. If any of you don't get a direct response, then please understand that I barely have time to do any one thing with so much coming at me right now.

Windows installation is the software which ships with the Toshiba laptop from recovery, so it should be clean.

Two attempts at upgrading to IE 11 resulted in error 9C59. I reinstalled once with the same problem and yesterday I reinstalled Win 7 and IE 11 is now accepted and installed and the systems also accept other updates.

My internet connect is high speed broadband and is supposed to be a clean connection, so corrupt files from downloading shouldn't be from bad internet service connection. Which update was corrupted is anybody's guess because the solutions offered did not detect any corrupt files anywhere.

A new problem appeared after the IE 11 was installed: A window appeared which was sent by OS to Desktop about the 2010 C++ Runtime environment which stated that the application (the launching of IE 11 to desktop) "terminated the runtime for an unknown reason". ohmy.png Windows OS replied by checking for solutions but none was found.

After I uninstalled Bing Bar and Bing Desktop then that problem disappeared! huh.png

Now everything works fine with uninstalled Bing Bar and Bing Desktop! biggrin.png

....but the whole debacle is WEIRD! Guys, it is as if some tech smart ass in NSA or Anonymous was toying with me! What else could it be but some hacker in the network messing with me or something?

Sure.

That's totally what happened...

Are you trolling? People at the NSA could care less about screwing with you, same thing with Anonymous.

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After I uninstalled Bing Bar and Bing Desktop then that problem disappeared! huh.png

Now everything works fine with uninstalled Bing Bar and Bing Desktop! biggrin.png

....but the whole debacle is WEIRD! Guys, it is as if some tech smart ass in NSA or Anonymous was toying with me! What else could it be but some hacker in the network messing with me or something?

Well, this is just a hunch, but it could be that the multi-millions of lines of code in thousands of different executables designed by thousands of different programmers over dozens of years running on hardware it wasn't tested on happened to encounter an unexpected incompatibility it wasn't designed to automatically detect. Layers and layers of software - problems happen.

If uninstalling Bing Bar and Bing Desktop stopped the problem, it's likely they were the source (or rather, the trigger) of that problem. Probably, they were trying to access some software component that wasn't installed or that wasn't compatible with them (wrong versions maybe), so they crashed, crashing the entire browser with it.

Googling 'Error 9C59' shows that some people think a certain version of .NET was causing the 9C59 problem.


Googling 'Error 9C59' shows that some people think a certain version of .NET was causing the 9C59 problem.

Software problems other than with IE 11 can make a 9C59 error, from what I've searched and found, such as with IE 10 ones with 9C59. Incompatibility would likely be in the .NET framework if it exists. Like you wrote in the previous post, their are layers upon layers of development and updates, too. Even one tiny issue such as end-user setting conflict would be easy to miss. I do make a lot of settings changes in IE. Just the right combination to cause a bug could be missed in Beta testing.


Are you trolling? People at the NSA could care less about screwing with you, same thing with Anonymous.

Some of the things which I write on the internet are extremely controversial (in other websites) and open to misinterpretation as being radical. Some of the issues exactly touch on things that NSA or Anonymous would be interested in examining, but like I am saying I feel would be misinterpreted as a threat because I make many sarcastic words and deliberate point to annoy a few people with duplicity in posts. For example, my real belief that the EU needs to have a complete constitution replacement could be mistaken as advocating revolution in Europe. ph34r.png NSA and Anonymous would be interested in my thousands of posts on such things for obviously different reasons. laugh.png Likely they are not targeting me, however I am amused at the remote possibility. laugh.png

By the way, it is supposed to be couldn't care less - not "could care less". ... just saying. happy.png

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by Clinton, 3Ddreamer

A new problem appeared after the IE 11 was installed: A window appeared which was sent by OS to Desktop about the 2010 C++ Runtime environment which stated that the application (the launching of IE 11 to desktop) "terminated the runtime for an unknown reason". ohmy.png Windows OS replied by checking for solutions but none was found.

After I uninstalled Bing Bar and Bing Desktop then that problem disappeared! huh.png

Now everything works fine with uninstalled Bing Bar and Bing Desktop! biggrin.png

....but the whole debacle is WEIRD! Guys, it is as if some tech smart ass in NSA or Anonymous was toying with me! What else could it be but some hacker in the network messing with me or something?

Bing Bar and Bing Desktop aren't included in a clean Windows 7 installation, so it's most likely that the Toshiba recovery media brought the vendor's pre-installed crapware along for the ride. A proper clean installation is very lean indeed: just the OS and drivers. So it's a case of "vendor crapware debacle", not "IE11 debacle", although it's valid to say that Microsoft shouldn't have let this happen.

As an IT consultant you should have access to install media via MSDN or TechNet which you could have used to cross-check with. I don't work much with OEM versions of Windows, but IIRC you should then be able to switch the product key on an MSDN version to your OEM key (assuming you use the same edition) via the System control panel and remain compliant for licensing purposes.

Direct3D has need of instancing, but we do not. We have plenty of glVertexAttrib calls.

Yeah, I just didn't have time to do anything more than I did. I don't have time to do a lot of things lately. wacko.png

There are some Toshiba updates that had to be applied. Perhaps they should be installed at a certain time among the Windows updates, such as right after IE 11, but I doubt that this would have anything to do with it.

For me it is an IE 11 debacle in a general sense, so the name stays.

By the way, guys, I visited a college today and found the network was hacked and reported it. It's amazing that I was the first to report it. What a coincidence with all the stuff that I have had to overcome with my computer lately!

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by Clinton, 3Ddreamer

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