Game college: Cheaper school or better school?

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12 comments, last by Dave Weinstein 9 years, 2 months ago
One last thing. Do any of you have an opinion on the value of working in the industry before trying to be an indie?

I agree with all of what frob said in response to this. I'll offer this advice though: if you are planning to be the kind of "indie" that strikes out on your own (or mostly on your own), without a regular day job to support you, then you will almost certainly want to consider the financial ramifications thereof. Not having a steady income *and* being in debt with school loans will make that more of a struggle.

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A lot of you seem to be under the impression that I want to become a programmer. So let me state it clearly: I'd sooner shoot my foot off than go get a traditional Computer Science degree. I like coding as a sort of side-thing that I do in order to reach the final product of my games, but that is definitely not what I want to with my life, or even spend four years of my life doing. I'm an artist at heart, and if you guys seem to agree that game designers can't get in on an entry level, then I'd probably try to get into the industry as an artist or animator. In which case perhaps Cleveland is the better option.

Also, I think it's worth noting that I am a senior and application season is long gone. Therefore my only two options are the two schools I applied and am accepted to: Cleveland Institute of Art, where I have a full scholarship, and Digipen where I have 10k (making tuition 17k). A traditional degree isn't even an option for me, not that I'd want one. I'm accepted to the Bachelor of Arts in Game Design at Digipen and the Bachelor of Fine Arts in Game Design at Cleveland

I think it's worth noting I also applied to USC's game design program. However, the tuition there is friggin' 45k a year. I might get scholarships (though i've heard that's unlikely at USC) but if I don't, do any of you think the quality of education there is good enough to justify the cost??

Also, I went to visit Digipen and most of the students we talked to that were seniors already had industry jobs lined up at places like Microsoft and Nintendo, so what do you mean by Digipen grads being less hire-able?? Even if I was entering these companies as a coder, it would be worth it to eventually be a designer at Nintendo O.o

1. A lot of you seem to be under the impression that I want to become a programmer.
2. I'm an artist at heart, ... then I'd probably try to get into the industry as an artist or animator. In which case perhaps Cleveland is the better option.
3. and if you guys seem to agree that game designers can't get in on an entry level,
4. my only two options are the two schools I applied and am accepted to: Cleveland Institute of Art, where I have a full scholarship, and Digipen where I have 10k (making tuition 17k).
5. I think it's worth noting I also applied to USC's game design program. However, the tuition there is friggin' 45k a year.... do any of you think the quality of education there is good enough to justify the cost??


1. Yeah, you'll find that most of the active members here are programmers and assume everybody who comes here want to be programmers. I keep tryin' to tell'em but they don't listen to me. tongue.png
2. I split up your words for the purpose of replying to what you said. Since you are an artist at heart, you should absolutely pursue art, and stop listening to people who tell you you have to be a programmer. That said, you should learn about the use of computers.
3. Somebody on another forum chided me for saying that. He pointed out that there ARE entry-level design positions. I acknowledge that entry-level junior design positions DO indeed exist. But you have to be godawful lucky to find one and get it! Clint Eastwood famously said, "are you feeling lucky, punk?" In this life, we make our own luck. Pursuing your passions persistently and tenaciously for a painfully long time can get you where you want to go (or a place you'll like). You're an artist at heart. Go for art. You have other outcomes you also desire. Pursue them. Follow your passions.
4. I don't know if you expressed it that clearly and strenuously before (it does sound kind of familiar). You have a decision to make. YOU have to make it. Make a decision grid, and decide between those two schools. You've gotten a bit more information now, probably not enough, but you'll never get enough, and you have to decide soon.
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5. I teach at USC. I never would have been able to afford to go there when I was your age. If your daddy's rich and is willing, fine. If not, stay with your "only two options," as you called them. That kind of debt (even with the scholarship you MIGHT get) isn't for everyone.

-- Tom Sloper -- sloperama.com

Avoid debt if you can possibly help it.

College debt cannot be discharged in bankruptcy -- if you were disabled they would garnish your social security to pay back your college loans.

Debt denies opportunities. You have payments that must be made, and that limits your ability to pursue lower paying options with long term payout, or to get access to credit that you might need for future purposes.

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