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Hypnotron

Member Since 10 Oct 2006
Offline Last Active Jan 16 2013 08:30 PM

#4834753 On Friendship In the Crowd

Posted by Hypnotron on 13 July 2011 - 04:13 AM


You liar.



You [...] and then follow with me supposedly responding to that with


Within a minute or less of someone telling you about two good friends committing suicides you tell them you give two [defecations]. If you did not intend that to mean what TheGuru obviously made of that, then you should have taken more care to say what you really mean. I don't see any of the messages I cut out with the well-known [...] to change that. If you have a different opinion, feel free to explain it.




So let me get this straight....



"I give two shits... I want you to... do it.."



is referring to suicides?



You sir are full of it and you can hide behind this claim and have your plausible deniability all you want. You aren't fooling anyone. I've been on IRC for 15 years and this wasn't about some mistake over me being insensitive, this was about challenging an erroneous claim of an op who had no proof to back up his statement.



Everyone, read the relevant log snippet I posted and judge for yourself VERSUS the "abridged" version BitMaster posted that has me looking like a monster. You decide who is trying to fool you.


#4834742 On Friendship In the Crowd

Posted by Hypnotron on 13 July 2011 - 03:59 AM

[7/13/2011 12:22 AM] <TheGuru> I can think of two [suicides]
[7/13/2011 12:22 AM] <TheGuru> off the top of my head
[...]
[7/13/2011 12:22 AM] <TheGuru> and both of them were good friends
[7/13/2011 12:22 AM] <Gachuk> actually we did have a suicide here once Hypnotron for your information
[7/13/2011 12:22 AM] <Gachuk> oh I only know of the one
[7/13/2011 12:22 AM] <TheGuru> So shut hte fuck up Hypnotron
[...]
[7/13/2011 12:23 AM] <Hypnotron> i could give two shits
[7/13/2011 12:23 AM] <Hypnotron> i want you to
[7/13/2011 12:23 AM] <Hypnotron> do it
[7/13/2011 12:23 AM] <Hypnotron> forever


So i've got your paste of your quote above



You liar.



You [...] and then follow with me supposedly responding to that with

[7/13/2011 12:23 AM] <Hypnotron> i could give two shits


When in reality that was not my response to suicides at all. You are a horrible dreadful human being. Shame on you.

Here is the full log and clearly as far as "i could give two shits" im referring to being banned. That is clear and you sir are exposed as a liar.



[7/13/2011 12:21 AM] <flameshadow> Hypnotron: On the plus side, #gamedev has a relatively low murder rate.
[7/13/2011 12:21 AM] <TheGuru> pretty high suicide rate.
[7/13/2011 12:21 AM] <Hypnotron> i dont know what that has to do with anything
[7/13/2011 12:21 AM] <shawn-p> Rofl
[7/13/2011 12:21 AM] <Hypnotron> just a bunch of bullcrap
[7/13/2011 12:21 AM] <TheGuru> 1 in 50 #gamedev peeps have committed suicide.
[7/13/2011 12:21 AM] <Hypnotron> name 5
[7/13/2011 12:22 AM] <Hypnotron> oh you just pull that shit out your rear
[7/13/2011 12:22 AM] <Gachuk> TheGuru: harsh dude harsh
[7/13/2011 12:22 AM] <TheGuru> ...
[7/13/2011 12:22 AM] <Gachuk> true
[7/13/2011 12:22 AM] <Hypnotron> typical
[7/13/2011 12:22 AM] <Gachuk> but harsh
[7/13/2011 12:22 AM] <TheGuru> I can think of two
[7/13/2011 12:22 AM] <TheGuru> off the top of my head
[7/13/2011 12:22 AM] <shawn-p> ra, EvAClEaR, trent, and Hypnotron
[7/13/2011 12:22 AM] <Hypnotron> two out of how many?
[7/13/2011 12:22 AM] <TheGuru> and both of them were good friends
[7/13/2011 12:22 AM] <Gachuk> actually we did have a suicide here once Hypnotron for your information
[7/13/2011 12:22 AM] <Gachuk> oh I only know of the one
[7/13/2011 12:22 AM] <TheGuru> So shut hte fuck up Hypnotron
[7/13/2011 12:22 AM] <TheGuru> or i'll lamer your ass forever.
[7/13/2011 12:22 AM] <shawn-p> finally
[7/13/2011 12:22 AM] <TheGuru> You little piece of shit
[7/13/2011 12:22 AM] <spaceRookie> where is Evaclear these days?
[7/13/2011 12:22 AM] <Hypnotron> go ahead and lamer my ass forever whatever the hell that means
[7/13/2011 12:22 AM] <Gachuk> spaceRookie: he comes by every so often
[7/13/2011 12:22 AM] *spaceRookie misses the Eva*
[7/13/2011 12:23 AM] <shawn-p> I dunno. He was cool as hell.
[7/13/2011 12:23 AM] <Hypnotron> i could give two shits
[7/13/2011 12:23 AM] <Hypnotron> i want you to
[7/13/2011 12:23 AM] <Hypnotron> do it


#4834735 On Friendship In the Crowd

Posted by Hypnotron on 13 July 2011 - 03:52 AM

So you asked to be banned forever then came in here to complain about being banned forever?





Did i ask to be banned forever out of the blue? Or was an ultimatum given first? Let's be fair. And to be clear, I'm not complaining about being banned forever. In fact I suspect Washu would unban me in a week or a month or whatever. The point is I'm never going back. My eyes are open now. I don't want to have some pseduo friendship with people who turn on you in a moment's notice and say "you can't come back here."


That's why the topic of this post is "On Friendship In the Crowd" or how in IRC at least that is false.


#4834731 On Friendship In the Crowd

Posted by Hypnotron on 13 July 2011 - 03:39 AM


SHow me exactly where i made "fun" of suicides or make an apology right now. What wiill you do?


Well, that why I said 'fun' and not fun. It's difficult to find a better way to describe it and my build is nearly done anyway, but 'deliberately rubbing salt into the mental wounds' might be a more accurate description.




Yet another unfounded accusation. Paste me a quote of mine where i rubbed salt into a mental wound. You avoided doing so in your last reply and you chagne the wording but still offered not a single quote. Dreadful. Shame on you.



And to those of you modding down my so called "reputation" on this board. Do so all you want. It speaks more about you than I. Let's keep this thread alive because all we're speaking is the truth.


#4834728 On Friendship In the Crowd

Posted by Hypnotron on 13 July 2011 - 03:35 AM

So you asked to be banned forever then came in here to complain about being banned forever?

That was a painful read. I know we're friends now and stuff, but good lord what a load of posturing rubbish. Good riddance I say. Be the better man Hypnotron, join a #rainbow channel or something, go for a walk. Paint a picture. Today is the first day of the rest of your life, and life is short my friend.



Posturing rubbish. Perhaps. But as the saying goes, "Judge not where you have no compassion."


This was part of my not wanting to post the logs. They were irrelevant. THe relevant part is being apart of an IRC channel for several years and then by the pettyness of some op being banned. Hey, i dont need you to tell me to move on. I already did that. This is about my reasoning for moving on. Maybe you dont want to know it then dont reply to this thread. Be careful what you ask for.



IRC is a petty playground. There's no doubt about that. Did anyone bother to say that up front? No. Is it reality? Absolutely. Maybe next time your initial responses will be a bit more tempered. You know, not everyone has to nor should they quit worrying and learn to love the bomb.


#4834722 On Friendship In the Crowd

Posted by Hypnotron on 13 July 2011 - 03:28 AM

and what really sucks is when you read in the logs which i just did when i was searching to paste is when someone you thought was cool liek Gachuk is there talking behind your back

Gachuk> sometimes TheGuru you make me feel warm fuzzys inside
<shawn-p> Hypnodumbass I mean.
<Gachuk> totally deserved that




Seriously to hell with these people.



Because all it takes is for one person to stand up for another... but they're all either cowards or corrupt (or afk/asleep :P)


#4834719 On Friendship In the Crowd

Posted by Hypnotron on 13 July 2011 - 03:23 AM

So, I just quickly flew over that but from what I can tell you continued to make 'fun' of suicides after you were told that was troubling to several people due to them having been present or close to suicides and then topped it off with some general profanity?



So you quickly few over it and came to some erroneous conclusion. SHow me exactly where i made "fun" of suicides or make an apology right now. What wiill you do?



Hillarous. You wanted the logs and then you couldnt even be bothered to read them straight.


#4834715 On Friendship In the Crowd

Posted by Hypnotron on 13 July 2011 - 03:11 AM


Is that because i've been too civilized?

You are throwing accusations at IRC ops in general and gamedev IRC ops in particular without in any way backing that up. That is not civilized. Civilized would be backing it up with us much rational information as possible and as little pathos as possible. But all we are getting here is pathos in the form of "I'm a poor victim and everyone is against me".



http://logs.pandamoj...52+AM&context=0


EDIT the below log includes more of the discussion leading up to the ban.
http://logs.pandamojo.com/?server=irc.afternet.org&channel=%23gamedev&nickquery=&hostquery=&query=&querytype=plaintext&from=7%2F12%2F2011+9%3A54%3A52+PM&to=7%2F13%2F2011+12%3A24%3A52+AM&context=0




Look, is this the end of hte world? No. Let's not make it out to be. I simply started a post proclaiming my frustration with petty ops and the facts of life with IRC. These facts of life will never change. I realize that. I simply don't have to choose to be apart of that. The end.




the logs.


#4834709 On Friendship In the Crowd

Posted by Hypnotron on 13 July 2011 - 03:06 AM

Hypnotron I am genuinely sorry. I really am. I was unduly harsh and I didn't consider your feelings :(

No offense, but you seem a bit highly strung. Maybe if you tell us all what sparked this mess we can give you some objective advice?



I accept your appology. I may reply with the log tomorrow but it's rather irrelevant to me at this point. I'm not going back there. Ive been a user ofIRC for over 16 years and I've seen everything. Pettyness, bullying, people ganging up on the new comer for no reason other than to support an op "friend" who is wrong and who they've never even met. In a sense, IRC is a microcosm of brown nosing and corrupted power everywhere.


The log isfull of seemingly petty crap and were i some user who just showed up in the past week I could expect the ban but i refuse to accept any longer (and I've done so on efnet #gamdev years before) to accept certain unjust bans due to power wielding. I don't want to be some user who has to be afraid to voice opposition to an idea of an op. That notion is horrid to me. They can have their channel full of yes men.


#4834701 On Friendship In the Crowd

Posted by Hypnotron on 13 July 2011 - 02:54 AM

re: Hodgman



Willful irrationality.


#4834696 On Friendship In the Crowd

Posted by Hypnotron on 13 July 2011 - 02:49 AM

BitMaster begins to have a reasonable guess why Hypnotron is having troubles with people.


E tu?



Is that because i've been too civilized?


#4834690 On Friendship In the Crowd

Posted by Hypnotron on 13 July 2011 - 02:39 AM


You don't want to be friends. You've already made your determination.



No Hypnotron, you are the one rejecting my advances :(

Can I be your friend Pandy? Your sad-face makes me sad Posted Image


Thank you Hodgman I'd like that a lot :)




Well then, I will hopefully be the martyr of sorts for you to adopt more reasonable first replies in the future because sans apology, I will not forgive your past indescritions by engaging you any further.



And you should further realize there is nothing more for me to gain here. I'm simply stating my resolve against you and #gamdev on afternet. Dead to me.


#4834682 On Friendship In the Crowd

Posted by Hypnotron on 13 July 2011 - 02:31 AM

Can I be your friend Pandy? Your sad-face makes me sad Posted Image





That's the type of IRC irrationality that is not worth discussing. You are blindly siding with someone and you don't even know what you're talking about. I'm not forlorn about this, I mostly just pitty you.It is a sign of weakness.


#4834678 On Friendship In the Crowd

Posted by Hypnotron on 13 July 2011 - 02:25 AM


You are a classic example. How many foul words have you used so far? How many unsubstantiated conclusions have you drawn?

You are not a reasonable person. That much is obvious. I will not reply to your disrespectful questions.


I used no foul words and I drew about 16 unsubstantiated conclusions all of which involved you being a crybaby.

I'm only joking man just post your logs, then maybe I can give you a useful reply and we could be friends :(


You don't want to be friends. You've already made your determination.


#4834673 On Friendship In the Crowd

Posted by Hypnotron on 13 July 2011 - 02:16 AM

What are you talking about? Did somebody call you a douchebag or ban you from IRC or something? Did someone tell you that Babylon 5 was rubbish? Did you have an argument about the inclusion of thrown weapons in the next Elder Scrolls game? Did you finally show someone your my little pony fanfic?

Just post the logs of your meaningless internet fight so I can tell you to grow up or something.

EDIT: I see you've edited your post to "clarify" but I still have no idea


You are a classic example. How many foul words have you used so far? How many unsubstantiated conclusions have you drawn?

You are not a reasonable person. That much is obvious. I will not reply to your disrespectful questions.





EDIT
And i will add... there is nothing I get from this channel as far as knowledge goes. #gamedev on afternet is essentially just diversion. It's not something i need. If you ban someone who's been in the channel for petty reasons then you will be punished by that person not returning. I've done the same thing on efnet. If u think it arrogant for me to say so be it. This was not my choice, it was a petty decision by a petty op who didn't want to have a rational conversation on even terms.




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