Pretty much this. Here in the US there's a lot of people who are like "we can't just have wide open borders to every guy who wants to come in to the US" (most of those people are Trump supporters btw) and that would be an issue if we did have wide open borders to every random Joe who wants to come in....except we don't. A lot of folks don't realize that it's process to stay in the US legally is a pretty long and complex one.
We're pretty much having the same problem here, which is that some people really want to blame immigrants for all the problems in the US.
This whole racists point of view on the argument just mystifies me. This is the same mentality a lot people are taking in the US as well, that if you have issues with immigrants, you are racist. I would argue that people don't give two thoughts to the color of your skin, people care about culture, values, ethics and any other number of defining moral characteristics. Very often, these things don't always align with the majority of the population. You are lying to yourself if you think otherwise.
Well done; you managed to completely misunderstand the misrepresent what I said... *slow clap*
I didn't make a single claim about immigration in the quoted text.
Nor, in the unquoted text, did I say that people who had problems with immigration are racists.
What I said was that the only people who are happy now are the racists.
You know, those people who have been putting leaflets through Polish people's doors telling them to go home.
Or, as reported on the news last night, the people who told a guy of Indian/Pakistani decent (based on skin tone and bone structure) that because we voted out he has to go home - the guy is Welsh. Was born in Wales. Has a Welsh accent.
Those people have been emboldened by the 'leave' vote as they now THINK that the majority is behind them; the fact they are racists means they are fucking morons anyway, so that belief makes sense from their twisted insane point of view.
So you are lying to yourself if you don't think people give two thoughts to the colour of your skin, because some people do. If they didn't they wouldn't be out there telling integrated 2nd and 3rd generation British people to 'go home' and 'get out because we voted out' and other less charming phrases because they aren't white.
(There are plenty of other stories about the place where people doing their job have been laughed at and told they have to go home now; or woke up the day of the result to find people shouting 'make Britain white' in connection to the leave vote. It doesn't take much to find evidence of people being racist idiots in connection with this vote.)
If you think otherwise then you are lying to yourself.
And we are talking 'Earth is the centre of the universe' level lying.
I would like to add that we only see overt racism from people who are "tough" and "hard" because they have the "balls" to behave this way.
Just as some people don't steal because its against the law, some people don't express their racist views because they don't want to be recognized as racist (and because it is also illegal). The referendum has brought racism out the closet but still the closet is only left ajar.
Again, pretty much this. The referendum in the UK and Donald Trump in the US have brought out all the closet racists. A lot of people feel it's a reaction to globalization and the changes made by globalization.
Some say immigration is wrong, some don't. Extreme minorities will always exists, slipping leaflets into your door. The majority, if you follow the process and legally enter the country and can contribute to the country with a learned skill, will generally tend to like you. It is those who do not that people take issue with.
A large number of immigrants are in fact NOT following the process to legally stay in the US. People who are not following the process are getting a free stay. The POTUS recently attempted to shield 5 million undocumented illegal aliens. There are currently close to 12 million illegal aliens in the US, most estimates say that number is actually higher. Their are 42 million total immigrants in the US, meaning %30 of immigrants are not following the rules.
The role of immigrants have changed from the original idea put forth of opportunity and the chance to make a bountiful life for yourself. Census reports(that's government statistics) show that even LEGAL immigrants take more advantage of the welfare system than native born Americans.
It does not make me a racist to think that the US vetting process is broken and that ANY country who takes in immigrants should only take those who can offer a skill to improve that country, not bring burden to it. All of these facts previously stated are drawn from government organizations, not some sort of anti-immigrant propaganda I am sure some of your will claim. Facts are not racist.
No one will argue that racism does not exist in some shape or form, of course, but the overtly racist are on the fringe of society. If you consider Pro-Leave for Brexit or supporting Donald Trump as making somebody overtly racist, you are ignorant.
Lets not forget to mention all of the social issues that come about from introducing a large variety of different cultures into a single, native born culture. That is a whole other discussion.
These are valid issues, clearly important and you've obviously done your research so I would not regard this as racist.
However (I'm not stating any facts here, just my impression, i'm probably way off) I was in Seattle recently and I've never seen so many homeless / drug addicts / veterans left to rot in my whole life (and the smell of weed on every corner), of course not all of America is like this but I think maybe there are other issues that are more important and if these were solved the immigrant problem could solve itself. In the same way I think if the NHS was ran by people who had a dang clue it wouldn't be such a mess either regardless of immigration.
Its certainly no good bringing in immigrants if the country is already a total mess but the total mess should be the priority.