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#4839009 What do you think about the Revelation?

Posted by on 22 July 2011 - 10:47 AM

Doing something "in the name of God" doesn't mean God told them to do it or approved of it.

That doesn't matter. How can you tell the difference? How could they prove that he did? How would you prove that he didn't (hint: we have examples in the Bible of God commanding genocide, human sacrifice etc. so it's plausible for believers)?

That was O.T.

So what?

and done for a reason (to ensure God's people survived).

I'm sorry for you if are able to come up with good reasons to justify genocide and human sacrifice. I really find your morality repulsive.

You can tell the difference by seeing if said people follow the example of Christ. For the record - neither the people responsible for the Crusades, nor Hitler nor David Koresh, nor ... followed this example.

It still doesn't matter. They believed they were right without evidence. That's what Christianity teaches you, that faith is a virtue. Just like you do not question the what god supposedly did in the Old Testament.

That just makes them misguided or deceived.

I agree. Since there's no evidence for god, all believer are misguided or deceived.

There is evidence (note: I didn't say proof), but you just don't accept it.

So you have some evidence that is so weak that any reasonable person will reject it?

#4838423 What do you think about the Revelation?

Posted by on 21 July 2011 - 07:10 AM

But I am a programmer, not a theologian so I accept my use of terms may well be incorrect. I'm quite happy to accept A Brain in a Vat's point.

So, if not an atheist, what is the term for someone who positively holds the belief that there is no God? I must have dozed off during RE at school.

If you believe there is no god then you are an atheist. If you don't believe either way you are an agnostic.

If you believe god exists, you're a theist.
If you don't, you're an atheist. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheist
If you believe there is no god, you're an antitheist. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antitheist
An antitheist is of course also an atheist.

#4838332 What do you think about the Revelation?

Posted by on 21 July 2011 - 01:08 AM

You don't know everything, and you certainly don't know if there is actually a Creator or not.

The burden of proof is on the one making a claim. So unless there's sufficient evidence that there is a creator being, there is not reason to believe there is one.

In short: You're not smarter or stupider than the average religious person, you just chose different. Don't forget that.

You say as if believing and not believing in god were equally valid positions, when they aren't.
However, I can agree that a person who believes in Flying Spaghetti Monster is the same as believing in Christian God, he just chose differently.

#4837516 What do you think about the Revelation?

Posted by on 19 July 2011 - 11:49 AM

Why are we even discussing consequences of stories that have no scientific value and no evidence to support them?
Why not discuss Greek Mythology? It's a more interesting and less bloody that Christian Mythology anyways :-)