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Tournicoti

Member Since 30 Aug 2009
Offline Last Active Aug 04 2014 04:01 AM

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In Topic: human intelligence

07 February 2014 - 05:53 AM

 

 

 

A computer can perform calculations faster than MOST human brains... however there are people who have beaten computers at calculating ridiculous numeric calculations


That statement is absurd. Shakuntala Devi took 28 seconds to compute 7686369774870 * 2465099745779. That's quite a feat, no doubt. It would be hard for me to measure how long it takes my laptop to make that computation, but the order of magnitude is 0.00000001 seconds.

 

Thank you Alvaro, I didn't realize my 20 cents calculator was more intelligent than me, just because it can perform calculations I can't do myself. You seem to have a very good, clever and nice idea about what intelligence is.

 


Clearly I was making the argument that calculators are more intelligent than people because they can multiply faster. Good reading comprehension!

 

I really don't want to be mean with you, you give so much to  this community ... I sincerely mean it .... sad.png

This discussion makes me very sad and crazy ...

But Intelligence has nothing to do with the ability to perform fastly some computation... This is the ability to evolve given stimuli (inputs) ... the ability to learn !


In Topic: human intelligence

07 February 2014 - 04:55 AM

 

A computer can perform calculations faster than MOST human brains... however there are people who have beaten computers at calculating ridiculous numeric calculations


That statement is absurd. Shakuntala Devi took 28 seconds to compute 7686369774870 * 2465099745779. That's quite a feat, no doubt. It would be hard for me to measure how long it takes my laptop to make that computation, but the order of magnitude is 0.00000001 seconds.

 

Thank you Alvaro, I didn't realize my 20 cents calculator was more intelligent than me, just because it can perform calculations I can't do myself. You seem to have a very good, clever and nice idea about what intelligence is.

 

We are facing the Human VS Nature Dunning-Kruger effect ... sad.png

Are you high, or asleep ?


In Topic: human intelligence

06 February 2014 - 02:23 PM

I do think we will be able to reproduce artificially intelligence, even better intelligence, but this has nothing to do with decision tree or negamax or whatever, ... it would anyway be the product of a reverse-engineering that we will not completely understand ...


In Topic: human intelligence

06 February 2014 - 01:43 PM

Comparing the computational power of a "laptop" to a human brain makes no sense. This is irrelevant.This is even absurd. Train your laptop to speak... you''ll get your answer

Computers are good to execute fastly algorithms humans order them to do, that's it. Talk to your laptop ... and ask it what intelligence is, you'll be very disappointed about its response ... Anyway, the problem is still the same : WHAT IS INTELLIGENCE ? This is not a stupid phylosophical question (like if it was out of the field of this 'discussion" ...., and an easy and unfair  way to skip the question ). This is the CORE of this (stupid) discussion


In Topic: human intelligence

04 February 2014 - 08:45 AM

I think this topic is flawed from the very beginning, because each one of us has his own definition about what human intelligence is.

For some, it's the ability (the state), of being able to accomplish a given task (playing chess, whatever). For some others, it is the ability to learn something ... (being able given DOF, to learn to walk for instance) . A function.

 

Before answearing the OP question, we have to be on the same wave about what intelligence is. And this is a philosophical and still open question ...


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