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DarkScience

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#4948279 Vector to Angle , and vice versa

Posted by DarkScience on 11 June 2012 - 01:51 PM

Each of your posts say you want to go back again. Only one direction makes sense.


What ???

You can project one unit along your orientation to find a 'forward' normal. That is a matter of simple trig.


Thats what i'm asking how to do. I've been getting an output which i posted here.

first set

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second set
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PYR are in degrees in second set...

Seems to be a slight inaccuracy. I cant get it working properly even though from what i know second set should work fine.

Ignore the Z = nonsense. Its just a placeholder.

EDIT The issue is that when X or Y is suppose to be full (-1 ,0, 1) they are but the other number is 6.E~~~ (first set)

EDIT AGAIN:

Remember that 6.12303176911189E-17 is 0.00000000000000006 (I may have even missed a zero there!) so it is a very, very small deviation.


That's the issue i was having, now that i know what it is i can fix it. So my calculations are correct. Just a issue that i must work around.


Also as to the -1 rating. Thanks. It means alot to me.


#4948275 Vector to Angle , and vice versa

Posted by DarkScience on 11 June 2012 - 01:46 PM

Oh and Alarvo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angle


#4948272 Vector to Angle , and vice versa

Posted by DarkScience on 11 June 2012 - 01:43 PM

Alvaro is correct: a triplet of pitch, yaw and roll (Euler angles) represents a 3D orientation. An euclidean 3D vector can at most represent a direction in 3D space (plus a magnitude). That direction can be e.g. an axis of rotation, or a look-at direction, but it does not capture a full 3D orientation.

If representing an axis of rotation with a 3D euclidean vector, one needs to add in a single scalar (the angle of rotation about that axis) to make it a complete representation of a 3D orientation. This is commonly called an axis-angle representation of an orientation. If you are looking to convert an axis-angle representation to a 3D rotation matrix (and then to an Euler triplet), see e.g. MathGeoLib's float3x3::RotateAxisAngle function (boils down to Quat::SetFromAxisAngle).

If representing a look-at direction with a 3D euclidean vector, one needs to add in the concept of a 'up' vector (also called a 'world up' or a 'scene up' vector, a fixed vector specifying the upwards direction convention in the scene), or a single scalar 'roll' (being equivalent to above axis-angle) to make it a complete representation of a 3D orientation. This orientation however cannot have any roll, if the up vector is kept static. If you are looking how to turn a look-at direction vector into a 3D orientation, see e.g. MathGeoLib's float3x3::LookAt.

To convert a rotation matrix to pitch-yaw-roll components (Euler angles), see e.g. MathGeoLib's float3x3::ToEuler*** conversion functions.


Alvaro is incorrect. I explained that im looking for the direction not the absolute full 3d orientation. He should of figured given the deffinition of Angle. Alvaro thanks for this stressful encounter. Go to hell.

clb thanks for an actual reply to my inquiry. Though go to hell for saying "Alvaro is correct".

Sorry i thought he would understand that i'm trying to get a Angle not a Position or Vector.


#4948269 Vector to Angle , and vice versa

Posted by DarkScience on 11 June 2012 - 01:41 PM


The goal is to convert Pitch , Yaw , Roll to X , Y , Z and then back.
So Angle( 0 , 0 , 0 ) would be in XYZ ( 0 , 1 , 0 ).
So Angle( 0 , 90 , 0 ) would be in XYZ ( 1 , 0 , 0 ).
So Angle( 0 , 180 , 0 ) would be in XYZ ( 0 , -1 , 0 ).
So Angle( 0 , 270, 0 ) would be in XYZ ( -1 , -1 , 0 ).
So Angle( 0 , 360, 0 ) would be in XYZ ( 0 , 1 , 0 ).

Your numbers don't make sense. How can (0,270,0) be (-1,-1,0) ?

Perhaps it is time for to go find a primer on 3D mathematics?


As for converting between them, it looks like you want to project one unit along the forward vector of the orientation and find that position.
As for reversing it, there are infinitely many orientations that can generate the forward vector.


Sorry wrote that in a hurry to represent the directions in relation to x,y,z not the proper numbers.


#4948262 Vector to Angle , and vice versa

Posted by DarkScience on 11 June 2012 - 01:28 PM

I didn't look at your code, but there seems to be a conceptual problem with what you are doing: XYZ describes a vector, while PYR describes a rotation. These are different things, and you can't convert one to another.

What are you really trying to do?


Thought it was clear from the code i posted. But i shall explain further. Also Can't be done isn't asking for a better explanation nor is not reading all that i posted advised when your goal is to understand what i am after.

This is the object orientation in 3D space.
-X is Left, +X is Right
-Y is Backward , +Y is Forward
-Z is Down , +Z is Up

Now this is the view as in camera or object rotation.
-Pitch is Down, +Pitch is Up
-Yaw is Left, +Pitch is Right
-Roll is Roll Left, +Roll is Roll right // this isn't as important right now

The goal is to convert Pitch , Yaw , Roll to X , Y , Z and then back.
So Angle( 0 , 0 , 0 ) would be in XYZ ( 0 , 1 , 0 ).
So Angle( 0 , 90 , 0 ) would be in XYZ ( 1 , 0 , 0 ).
So Angle( 0 , 180 , 0 ) would be in XYZ ( 0 , -1 , 0 ).
So Angle( 0 , 270, 0 ) would be in XYZ ( -1 , -1 , 0 ).
So Angle( 0 , 360, 0 ) would be in XYZ ( 0 , 1 , 0 ).


#4948247 Vector to Angle , and vice versa

Posted by DarkScience on 11 June 2012 - 01:02 PM


You don't appear to understand the Vector/Angle model.


I guess I can't help you, since I don't understand anything.


Hoping you're not saying that in a sarcastic way in which your mad. I don't insult people in that way and wasn't implying anything by that comment.

Also I believe i will try a more manual way of doing what it is i desire. By converting 0 to 360 to -180 to 180 and applying some arithmetic's to convert it to x and y.


#4948239 Vector to Angle , and vice versa

Posted by DarkScience on 11 June 2012 - 12:34 PM

first set
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second set
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this is what im using to determine the accuracy of the values, they seem to slightly off in the second set though very close to what there suppose to be. Seems to increase in inaccuracy the larger the number.
http://www.mathsisfu...Cosine, Tangent


#4948229 Vector to Angle , and vice versa

Posted by DarkScience on 11 June 2012 - 12:00 PM

I didn't look at your code, but there seems to be a conceptual problem with what you are doing: XYZ describes a vector, while PYR describes a rotation. These are different things, and you can't convert one to another.

What are you really trying to do?


You don't appear to understand the Vector/Angle model. It is possible and is done in just about every game out there. PYR can be converted to a normal which is a direction represented in XYZ and vice-versa.

Also i may of just figured it out. Ensuring consistency now ...
Never mind still don't have it ....


#4948225 Vector to Angle , and vice versa

Posted by DarkScience on 11 June 2012 - 11:42 AM

I'm currently trying to figure out how to convert XYZ to PYR. Here are my classes.

Also i'm currently looking it up. I know of sin/cos. I'm learning what i can from online docs.

Vector:
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Angle:
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