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BMO

Member Since 02 Dec 2012
Offline Last Active Dec 15 2012 08:05 PM

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In Topic: Scientists are testing that we are in the Matrix...

14 December 2012 - 11:19 AM


I might be wrong, the answer to all the worlds problems might be in understanding that we are in some made up simulation. But I doubt it. And I think there are more pressing issues at hand. What if the answer is "No, we were wrong. That was all a bunch of garbage."? Wasted time and energy imho.


This is kind of faulty thinking, imo. You can't know whether or not an experiment will be successful unless the experiment is performed. And if the experiment is a success? Then yes, you can learn a great deal from it that could be of benefit to mankind. Did you know that it's theorized that the universe has a baseline energy level (what we might call a "zero point") and that this energy represents the power of entire suns packed into a single cubic centimeter of space? Imagine if, by understanding the structure of the universe more completely, we could somehow unlock this potential, or some other energy potential as yet undiscovered? It's no secret that we are facing a huge energy crisis, and anything that could possibly lead to answers should be explored.


Your right. It's not logical. I just don't feel that in this particular instance the research is going to lead to results. Its just an opinion. I hope I'm wrong.


Why the hell are we even thinking about creating stupid games instead of trying to cure cancer, right?


I am because I'm not smart enough to cure cancer. But if I happen to be successful someday I will use the money I make to support those that are.

Edit:
I guess the bigger point that I'm getting to is that I don't think all research is worth doing just for the sake of research. We can come up with all kinds of possible scenarios that might be true, but I'd rather that the Einsteins of the world focus on those that have a higher degree of probability of actually being true and have a meaningful impact on society. We might all be a product of mole people living in the Earths core, and I can't disprove that. But I don't think we should invest the time and money to find out. That is not the same as saying all research is bad and we shouldn't ever experiment. It's not so black and white.

In Topic: Scientists are testing that we are in the Matrix...

14 December 2012 - 10:56 AM

I might be wrong, the answer to all the worlds problems might be in understanding that we are in some made up simulation. But I doubt it. And I think there are more pressing issues at hand. What if the answer is "No, we were wrong. That was all a bunch of garbage."? Wasted time and energy imho.

In Topic: Scientists are testing that we are in the Matrix...

14 December 2012 - 10:34 AM


I never said anyone was assigned to anything. I think they are wasting their time on something that is irrelevant. The worlds problems needs multi-disciplinary solutions (global warming for example needs physicists and biologists ect. ect. ad nauseum). Just because they chose to work on that project doesn't change the fact that it's a project that isn't worth the time.

It's not a "waste of time", they're theoretical physicists, it's their job to ask such questions and investigate such things. Your argument is essentially "I think it's a waste of time when they could be solving bigger problems" which I have already explained is a false dichotomy. It is not an either/or scenario no matter how many times you repeat this fallacy.

These are some of the worlds most brilliant minds working on something as important as figuring out the best way to win at tic tac toe. They may be passionate, but it's still a waste of human potential.


Do you have a source for this or are you making a rather large (and baseless) assumption here? I wouldn't put tic tac toe on the same footing as answering fundamental questions about the nature of the universe.


Thats not essentially my argument, thats exactly my argument. It's not a false dichotomy because I'm not saying there are ONLY two options. They could work on stuff that would answer questions AND save lives, but they aren't. I feel that it's a waste of time because it will help zero people. And I feel that the worlds smartest people should work on making the world a better place. I don't think they will ever answer anything and they are just running to nowhere on their hamster wheels in the name of science. Thats an opinion, not a fact.

What good will it do the world to know we are in a simulation when we are all dead? I think saving lives is far more important than answering questions that won't have any real effect. I personally feel that people that are as smart as they are have a moral obligation to help the society that educated them and I don't think this helps anyone. That's just like, my opinion, man.

In Topic: Scientists are testing that we are in the Matrix...

14 December 2012 - 10:01 AM


Except that definitively deciding there is no god is making the same logical fallacy and equally arrogant.

But arrogance does not condemn me to hell. That logic only works on religious people. I am already fully aware of what happens in death, since I already experienced it before I was born. Do you not also remember that millenia of nothingness? It lasted over 10 billion times longer than you have been alive, so why would you forget?

Honestly, existence before life and after life are both exactly the same. Death is no mystery. We have all already been there. Why is this so hard for people to understand and accept?

L. Spiro


I'm not condemning you to hell. I'm saying that declaring you know something with 100% certainty when its impossible to know for 100%, is arrogant. Whether that is for or against religion is irrelevant. You cannot prove something that is improvable, and all faith based religions are improvable. That's what makes it a faith based religion. You can't prove OR disprove it. Why is that so hard for you to figure out? You are continually making the same logical errors religious folks make, saying you know things for certain which are impossible to know and then declaring it as fact.

2 sides of the same coin.

In Topic: Scientists are testing that we are in the Matrix...

14 December 2012 - 09:19 AM

Scientific research isn't about someone assigning scientists to specific research topics, people go into areas of research of their own choosing because that is what they are interested in. Some people have a knack for theoretical physics. Some have a knack for revolutionary biology and so on. It's a false dichotomy to say that either a team of researchers explore this area of physics or they explore an other area of biology, that's not how research is conducted. And who's to say that this team of physicists would be any good at biology? Who's to say that cancer research (or whatever example you give) does not inspire them like their current area of research does? In any case, it's not like cancer hasn't been a massive area of research for many decades or anything.


I never said anyone was assigned to anything. I think they are wasting their time on something that is irrelevant. The worlds problems needs multi-disciplinary solutions (global warming for example needs physicists and biologists ect. ect. ad nauseum). Just because they chose to work on that project doesn't change the fact that it's a project that isn't worth the time. These are some of the worlds most brilliant minds working on something as important as figuring out the best way to win at tic tac toe. They may be passionate, but it's still a waste of human potential.

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