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phantom

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In Topic: USC Canceled Video Game Panel For Too Many Men

Today, 07:14 AM

Um... you just fulfilled your own prophecy: you literally just chose to shut down in the presence of a word. Talk about being triggered :P


Yes, after running any counter arguments I might have had and doing simple analysis (based on previous posts in this thread) leading to the conclusion that anything I say, counter to the position of 'they did the right thing', was going to result in 'you are a white male; you are privileged, your opinion is wrong' response.

When someone pulls the 'privilege' card in a discussion their mind is made up; they are right.
Game over.
Do not pass go.
Do not collect £200 because you are privileged enough already.

(Also 'triggering' is a bullshit phrase too frankly... 'waah! someone said a thing I don't agree with! they have triggered me and should be made to go away!' is all I see when someone pulls that word out too...)

In Topic: USC Canceled Video Game Panel For Too Many Men

Today, 04:51 AM

"Privilege", "Trigger" and what looks like "white-splaing"... its like a game of SJW Bingo up in here!

In Topic: USC Canceled Video Game Panel For Too Many Men

Today, 02:02 AM

privilege


I had a reply forming until I got to this.
Do you know what this word has become?
A Shut Down.
A single word to enforce "I don't agree and I don't think your views matter because of your background".

There is no debate to be had, no point to be made, because 'privilege'.

I guess I should thank you; it'll stop me wasting any further time trying to engage in any sort of conversation with closed minded "rah rah we are right!" people in this thread.

In Topic: USC Canceled Video Game Panel For Too Many Men

Yesterday, 03:41 PM

Cancelling something like this and saying "No, we can't do it AT ALL because it isn't diverse enough!" doesn't help anyone.


More importantly, the event doesn't sound like it was all that diverse anyway - 8 men, 1 women.
As I asked before; how many Black? how many Asian? How many Hispanic? Gay? Trans?

I'm willing to bet the 8 dudes were all white males and I wouldn't be surprised if the woman was also white - "throw a white woman in there and it is diverse" is not diversity in the slightest, it's a mockery of it at best, so if they were going to cancel because of only 8 white dudes, they probably should have cancelled because of 9 white people.

Of course, there is a problem built in to all this from the start; "Legends Of The Industry" is, unfortunately, going to be largely white male biased because the legends are white males, due to the aforementioned diversity problem.

Much like the people who would like to magic up a work force consisting of 52% women and 48% men (representing the population percentages) overnight this type of panel is going to be heavily male biased right now anyway - it seems the legends aren't there who aren't white and male - but the next generation aren't going to get their advice because they are all white and male and so can't pass the knowledge on.

Am I the only one seeing a chicken and egg problem here?

For want of a woman a whole year of students of lost out on potentially valuable information... I'm sure that'll help them become the next legends...

Fortunately, beyond these odd threads, I don't really have to give a shit so I can sit back, sip on my drink, and watch shit continue to get worse for all involved... ah, the joys of being someone who wants to watch the world burn...
*sips*

In Topic: USC Canceled Video Game Panel For Too Many Men

01 May 2016 - 01:57 PM

I think USC has had a lot of success with this single move, just by getting people talking about it. In fact, I think that may have been why they seized the opportunity to make a point.  Meanwhile it's easy to keep reeling out the rope people want to use to hang themselves, metaphorically speaking.  Keep up the comments.


Honestly, I don't think they have.

Oh, sure you'll get a group who will yell about this being a 'feminist attack on <whatever>', and sure you'll get a group which says 'no, not having the panel is better than a panel of all men' and frankly, in this situation, both are utterly wrong.

USC on the other hand looks dumb for having called this off at such short notice because one of the panellist pulled out - they impacted people's potential education because ONE person pulled out. There was still good information there, they could have started by pointing out they wanted to have a woman there but for <reasons> couldn't because Shit Happens and then got on with giving out the good information was which still going to be in the room.

Yes, in an ideal world the panel would have been diverse and the loss of one person wouldn't be an issue - but we don't live in an ideal world, and I maintain that in situations like this a bit of pragmatism would have been preferable to what amounts to harming the education of other women because there wasn't one woman on the stage.

I also don't think they seized anything to make any sort of point - while I'm certainly not siding with the anti-diversity parade (although I'm sure people are already thinking that) to some degree, coupled with the 'right side of history' comment this was someone putting there views in front of the education of the student body, both male and female, and feeling nothing short of righteous while doing so.

They have not done themselves any favours.

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