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kburkhart84

Member Since 30 Jun 2004
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Mixing 3d prerenders with traditional tilemaps(or how to make 3d tiles work)

25 October 2014 - 04:16 PM

Hey guys.  Thanks in advance for any help and advice.  I'm in a different situation than many people.  I like 2d graphics, and 3d graphics, depending on the game and situation.  But me personally, I'm not much of an artist, 2d or 3d.  Somehow though, my simplistic 3d models(as rendered low-res for 2d games) end up more acceptable than my wannabe pixel art or other 2d art forms(vectors, simply drawing, whatever).  Now, as far as making tiles for games, I'm not as bad, but when it comes to animating and drawing characters, that is another story.  So, I'd like to find a way to make it work and have a nice cohesive style.

 

If I prerender graphics using a toon shader and either outline or not, I get one(or one of a group of) style/styles.  But if I draw tiles using 2d(via pixel art methods or vectors or simply drawing in digital form), I get a different style.  Are there any tricks to make these work together somehow?

 

Or...how possible is it to try creating 3d models for tile creation instead?  I know for isometric projection it would work fine generally, but even then, what methods are possible for example to make two separate models(for different tiles) mesh properly together.  If I were to do it pixel art form, I could create a base tile for grass, create some variations from it, and then combine it with say a sand tile with different corners as needed.  The easy way to do this for me is using Cosmigo Pro Motion since it can easily let you draw seamless tiles by repeating them while drawing, and then allows you to draw via a sort of "tiling engine" in order to blend different tiles/corners/etc...  But if I make tiles this way, it gets the problem I mention in the first paragraph.

 

If I render "3d tiles" I can't figure out how to make them blend together.  If I use a seamless texture I can get a quad(or even bumpy terrain kind of thing) to be seamless when rendering if I'm careful, but how could I get for example grass to mix with sand?  The only way I can think is to create a separate model of sorts and doctor it up, but that is much less intuitive than doing it with 2d.

 

The other thing for example, is if I want to create tiles for a side-scroller/platformer.  If I want a grass platform(3d rendered for 2d), I need at minimum a middle and one endpiece(or two so I don't have to mirror).  It is easy enough to create a single model 3x1 tile units in size for a render.  But if I wanted to use it as a tileset, how would I then get the middle part to be seamless with itself?  Maybe I'm wrong, but I would think there is some sort of trick to it.  This also applies for example if I wanted to make a top-down game, shooter, space, whatever.  How would I get for example an alien wall with endpoints and corners to be seamless between middle parts?

 

EDIT**

 

If someone wants examples of what I'm talking about, I can whip up some quick 3d renders with marking showing what I mean.


Retro(Sfxr/Bfxr) Sounds In A High Detailed 2d Game

22 May 2013 - 11:07 AM

I'm interested in opinion on this subject.  The graphics I'm referring too would be 3d rendered sprites, which I'm rendering with Blender.  The majority would be at the least 32x32, but most are closer to the 64x64 size, which allows for pretty high detail.  Now, sound effects on the other hand, I'm interested in using bxfr/sfxr for them.  The sound effects therefore would be more "retroish", and therefore wouldn't exactly match the visual style.

 

My question is, how do you(as potential game players) feel about this combination?  Are there any examples of games like this?  I know that the SNES games generally could be like this, but generally the sprites were lower detailed than this, and/or the sounds weren't quite as "retro" as the ones from sfxr.


Creating "Chains" of objects with smooth motion.

12 November 2012 - 07:48 PM

I'm making a game with Game Maker(Studio), but I understand C/C++ so that won't be a problem.

I'm looking at creating a bit of variety. Simple chains that follow a path are pretty easy, but what about chains that are more "wild." It seems like they are partly IK chain based, but I'm not so sure, considering that I don't think older platforms had enough power to really do IK with this many "links/bones" as these games have. So it seems to me that in general this should not be too difficult to do. I'm pretty sure it wasn't done pre-drawn, also considering the limited space constraints of these old platforms. I have found a few videos so you can see what I'm talking about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUoAVtYn6GQ at time 1:54. The guy talking is pretty stupid sounding, but it is a good example, which is the scorpion boss from Legend of Zelda: A Link To The Past(SNES) You can see the scorpion tail is "wagging" for the most part, but then gets shot out towards link.
http://www.youtube.c...?v=NcXuvqwIztc is the final boss to the SNES game BioMetal( a really difficult Shooter). You can see the "arm" chain thing at the bottom that moves around pretty fluid and random, and doesn't appear to follow a given path, or be constrained to an IK chain type thing either.
There are other examples, including bosses from the Contra series of games.
So, does anyone have any insight how to create this effect. I'm sure the ones where the chain objects simply follow the leader is easy, as you can simply have each one follow the next one in line, but how about the fluid circular motion, etc...?

Thanks in advance for the help.

[web] PHP and Text Files

22 November 2011 - 09:41 PM

I'm making some online games, but I need to want to a high score system to them. I know plenty of C++, and PHP looks similar enough I don't think I will have any problems learning to use it. The only part I'm having trouble with is the file operation. I'm planning on using a simple text file located on the server for this. I don't want to use an actual database because I think that is overkill for something that can easily be handled by a simple text file. Plus, I have a limited amount of MySQL Databases on my host.

Here's my issue. I've seen the PHP functions for reading/writing text files. They look very similar to ones used in C/C++. Of course, on a PC, most likely only one instance of a game is open, and so only one instance of the game would want access to the file. I'm not intending on keeping the files open for anything longer than the few milliseconds required to add/remove scores, but I'm afraid that if I got enough people playing my game at once, at some point more than one instance of my game will want to access that single file on my server.

My first solution would be to do things in a simple loop. If the file is not accessible, try again, until it is accessible. I don't think it would cause any problems that way, because there won't ever be so many playing the game that it would take more than a few iterations of the loop to get access to the file. But, it is an online world now. I'm guessing that somewhere there is some code, or functionality that allows for this kind of thing. For example, I know that using a database would allow instances to easily read/write records, and a MySQL database is already built with this kind of thing in mind. I'm also guessing that something similar may exist for simple text files, hence my question. Is there something I'm missing?? If not, would it be better for my to go ahead and use a single database for the high scores in all my games, or maybe I should just go ahead and implement a code loop for the text file access in the PHP code.

Any ideas?? Thanks in advance.

Classic Games for an online game portal.

23 October 2011 - 01:21 PM

I'm looking for some game ideas to create for a website. This section of my website will be dedicated to the "earlier classics" back in the days of Atari 2600. I'm thinking games that are really easy to create, and easy to play. For example, Asteroids, Pac-Man, and similar. I would like to have at the least 10 games like this, but would gladly have plenty more. I intend to "recreate" the original gameplay, even though the graphics will not be the same. For example, for the Asteroids clone, I would only have the one weapon, the asteroids, and the random alien that comes every now and then. I may have a little more sound effects and graphics than the original, and I'm not going to exactly duplicate the games level by level, but I DO want to duplicate the gameplay. For some of the games, I may also create an "extended" version, that adds on things, for example in the case of asteroids, have different enemies, maybe make the screen area larger than 1 screen only, have weapons and/or powerups, etc... But I don't know if I'm going to do that for all games. Also, please note that the games don't HAVE to be on the Atari, but the general idea is that the games are similar in era and complexity. I'm looking for the "short and sweet" kind of games. So far, the following list is what I have. As I get ideas, I will add them to the list. Thanks in advance.

-Asteroids
-Pac-Man
-Yar's Revenge
-Space Invaders
-Missile Command
-Tetris
-Centipede
-Berzerk
-Frogger
-Snake
-Breakout
-1942
-005
-Tempest
-Duck Hunt

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