FF3 DS

Published September 04, 2007
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For my birthday, I decided to buy myself a shiny black DS Lite, along with New Super Mario Bros and Final Fantasy III. Mario's had some good playtime but I've mostly been focusing on Final Fantasy.

For a series with cult status it sure exhibits a lot of flaws. The one that gets me the most is that they use unskippable cutscenes all over the damn place; if I'm going to have to grind through a bunch of monsters to get my party up to the appropriate levels, then I don't really want to have to sit around and wait for my characters to jump up and down when they level up and so on. The credits sequence after the first half hour of gameplay actually had me thinking that the game had ended and that I'd paid GBP30 for 30 minutes...

Anyway. One thing that I was thinking about this morning is the job system. Jobs - better knows as character classes - determine a bunch of things, apparently. You only have four people in your party, but there are many more jobs than that, so you find yourself training each character up in multiple jobs and then switching between them according to what the situation demands. It's quite a nice idea, but what bugs me is the way in which each job is trained entirely independently; switching my high-level white mage to red mage sees her starting her training from scratch, and that's not terribly believable.

I can see that they wanted to have you incur some kind of penalty for switching jobs, but I think it would have been nicer if they'd dropped the 'training up your job level' idea and just based the whole thing on character stats instead. Gaining lots of XP as a warrior increases your Strength and Endurance base stats. Gaining lots of XP as a mage increases your Intelligence, etc. Then, the 'job level' is actually just something calculated from your base stats; you could end up with a high job level for a job you've not ever actually used, but that kinda makes sense, because you'd expect a proficient white mage to be at least a reasonably competent red mage. It would allow 'sideways' movements in jobs while still preventing people from completely changing course.

It almost turns the job system into "which stats should I raise now?" except that there are other things keyed from it too, like usable equipment types or special abilities, so that makes it a bit more interesting.
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LachlanL
I agree that it's pretty annoying when you have to start from scratch if you change class, but I don't think the "based on stats" idea would work very well. Like you said, there should be some penalty for changing classes. You could (for example), plop your character into the class that provides the most intelligence upgrades for 99% of the game and then just switch to a different class that needs int for a fully-maxored super-warlock! (or whatever). There should be a reward to picking a class and sticking to it is all I'm saying.

Maybe you could model it by having classes that can "cross-over" to other classes, but with a penalty depending on how similar the classes are. For example, say your white mage wants to become a red mage. They're both magic users and some of the skills are pretty similar, so a white mage can become a red mage at 50% penalty. So a level 10 white mage could also be a level 5 red mage. However, if the white mage wanted to become a fighter, the penalty might be something like 90%.

Anyway, that's my $0.02AUD.
September 04, 2007 06:01 PM
Stompy9999
If you haven't played it, I'd highly recommend picking up Final Fantasy V Advance. It features a far superior version of the job system, which allows the characters to learn abilities from one class that can then be used when they are another class. For instance, a character who is a high level Black Mage can switch jobs to a Knight, and still retain the ability to cast black magic. Furthermore, there is no penalty for switching jobs in FFV.

I liked FFIII, but I found it to be frustratingly difficulty, due largly in part to the lack of save points in dungeons. I had to grind for hours in the final dungeon just so I wouldn't get pulverised by the final boss, and I wasn't exactly weak up to that point. It's a good game, but nowhere near as good as FFV.
September 04, 2007 09:02 PM
evolutional
sounds a bit like how EVE online works
September 08, 2007 09:41 AM
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