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Michael Tanczos

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Anybody who claims that web designs should not contain tables or be based from tables and adamantly insists upon it is an idiot. Why? Because the time is not right yet.. it takes too many hacks to get a CSS-based page looking okay on IE browsers because of so many f'ed up bugs and implementation problems on Microsoft's part. So yeah, down the line it will be cool as hell.. but at the moment, you have the option for hacking your CSS to a point where something will work versus using a table and getting it done and over with and it will work in all browsers.

Perhaps to some degree I shouldn't call them idiots. Maybe they are just wishful thinkers for the time being.

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I tried to make my website use only CSS magic. I failed mainly because it worked in FF but not IE. I just assumed it was because I suck at web "programming" [smile]

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my website is fully CSS based, however the layout is pretty damned simple which is why I could get away with it [grin]

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I had a couple problems with IE browsers for my site here on my member webspace, even though it's fairly simple, and at the time was a straightforward and honest steal from evolutional's page (who makes me look like the ignorant n00b I really am, when it comes to such things). Got 'em ironed out though. But yeah, would have been easier if I'd used tables.

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Just venting frustrations at the moment after spending 3 hours trying to get something to look right in IE only to discover that it ultimately was a bug that you needed to use a CSS hack to get around. =P

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Completely agreed. IE is a mess. I hope Microsoft cleans up their act for IE 7. Not that I will switch back from Firefox now anyway ...

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